Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 16 December 2015 at 08:00, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 15, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: > >>I realize that my weight as a very low activity committer is minimal and >>I don't have an alternative proposal. > > An alternative which meets many of your criteria is the GitLab proposal in PEP

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 15, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: >I realize that my weight as a very low activity committer is minimal and >I don't have an alternative proposal. An alternative which meets many of your criteria is the GitLab proposal in PEP 507. Cheers, -Barry pgpIh_t3P6zKi.pgp Description: Open

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Jesus Cea
On 15/12/15 18:11, Brett Cannon wrote: > I'm sorry if this came off as a threat that I'm holding over people to > scare them or it comes off as me trying to be a bully to people. I'm > simply trying to make sure I get answers to this question which are > truly sincere and the importance of the ans

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 at 12:49 Neil Schemenauer wrote: > On 2015-12-15, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: > > > Also realize that anyone who says they will walk away will be held to > > > their word; if we still choose to switch to GitHub I will expect you to > > > no longer

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 15, 2015, at 01:06 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: >I don't know what other concerns there might be, but I think it would be good >to collect them and ask Jono about them. If past issues have changed for the >better then the more who know the better; likewise, if there are still issues >we should

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/15/2015 12:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: If we have doubts on the culture of the company, it may be a good idea to talk directly to their public relations department or an informal chat with women who currently work at Github and get a fir

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: >If we have doubts on the culture of the company, it may be a good idea to >talk directly to their public relations department or an informal chat with >women who currently work at Github and get a firsthand view of the place and >not be biased

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/15/2015 12:41 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > These are the follow-up articles which state that Github Inc has > taken some actions to correct the "mistakes" they might have done. > > https://github.com/blog/1826-follow-up-to-the-investigation-results > https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-th

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On 2015-12-15, Vinay Sajip wrote: > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: > > Also realize that anyone who says they will walk away will be held to > > their word; if we still choose to switch to GitHub I will expect you to > > no longer contribute to Python and will personally hold you to your word >

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hello Ethan, On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Those links are a year and half old, so if there is current evidence to > the contrary I'm interested in seeing it. > These are the follow-up articles which state that Github Inc has taken some actions to correct the "mistakes

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/15/2015 11:40 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > I cannot and will not be associated with a project that > supports GitHub [...] Lest anyone accuse me of hypocrisy because I have a GitHub account, it is required for a class I am taking, and will be deleted (or at least go unused) once that class

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/12/2015 03:32 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > Over at core-workflow@ we are discussing details of the GitHub and > GitLab proposals and one of the worries the GitLab supporters have > brought up is that some core developers could flat-out stop > contributing if we moved to GitHub. Now I have majo

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 at 08:58 Vinay Sajip wrote: > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: > > > Over at core-workflow we are discussing details of the GitHub and GitLab > > proposals > > I don't have any strong feelings against GitHub, and I understand you want > to bring out strong feelings, but > > >

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-15 Thread Vinay Sajip
Brett Cannon python.org> writes: > Over at core-workflow we are discussing details of the GitHub and GitLab > proposals I don't have any strong feelings against GitHub, and I understand you want to bring out strong feelings, but > Also realize that anyone who says they will walk away will be he

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-13 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 at 09:55 s.krah wrote: > > *Brett Cannon >* wrote: > > You can email me privately if you want, but let me know if you care if I > share this with > > very select people like Guido. Also realize that anyone who says they > will walk away will > > be held to their word; if we st

Re: [python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-13 Thread s.krah
Brett Cannon wrote: > You can email me privately if you want, but let me know if you care if I share this with > very select people like Guido. Also realize that anyone who says they will walk away will > be held to their word; if we still choose to switch to GitHub I will e

[python-committers] Would anyone STOP contributing to Python if we used GitHub?

2015-12-12 Thread Brett Cannon
Over at core-workflow@ we are discussing details of the GitHub and GitLab proposals and one of the worries the GitLab supporters have brought up is that some core developers could flat-out stop contributing if we moved to GitHub. Now I have major doubts that's true as no one has told me that is the