Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2014-01-06 Thread Michael Foord
On 6 Jan 2014, at 10:35, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > 2013/12/4 Michael Foord : >> As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North >> America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running >> from approximately 10am to 4pm. > > My talk "Track

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2014-01-06 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On lun., 2014-01-06 at 11:37 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2014/1/6 Victor Stinner : > > You must try to understand why and fix remaining issues. > > Oops, I don't understand why, but sometimes I write "you" instead of "we". > > *We* must try to understand why and fix remaining issues. Certainl

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2014-01-06 Thread Victor Stinner
2014/1/6 Victor Stinner : > You must try to understand why and fix remaining issues. Oops, I don't understand why, but sometimes I write "you" instead of "we". *We* must try to understand why and fix remaining issues. Victor ___ python-committers maili

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2014-01-06 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, 2013/12/4 Michael Foord : > As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North > America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running > from approximately 10am to 4pm. My talk "Track memory leaks in Python" was accepted, I will be present at Mon

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-05 Thread Michael Foord
On 5 Dec 2013, at 02:16, Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/12/13 18:19, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>> Define "sunset" :) >> >> A romantic evening with the bsddb module perhaps? Then we tie it to >> a weakref and throw it in the ocean. > > bsddb, Glup! :-

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/12/13 00:22, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Like many other systems, Zope and Plone only support a few Python > versions for each release. If you want to upgrade to later Python > versions, you have to upgrade to newer Zope and Plone versions as > well.

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/13 18:19, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Define "sunset" :) > > A romantic evening with the bsddb module perhaps? Then we tie it to > a weakref and throw it in the ocean. bsddb, Glup! :-). I can't attend the summit, but I would like to discuss DT

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 Dec 2013 09:04, "Brian Curtin" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> >> On 04.12.2013 21:28, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> > >> >> On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >> >>> 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw :

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 05.12.2013 00:03, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> Can you clarify on some specific interesting cases you ran into? >> >> One example is users stuck on e.g. Zope 2.10 or Plone 3.3 (or even >> earlier). They cannot upgrade because they are using cust

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 04.12.2013 21:28, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > >> On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > >>> 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : > On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wro

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 12:28 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : > >> On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> >

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2013/12/4 Christian Heimes : > Am 04.12.2013 20:07, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: >> FWIW, the current plan is to have the last normal release in 2015 >> and security releases "indefinitely" (2020 or something like >> that). > > Can we make an exception for platform support, e.g. compatibility > fixes

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 04.12.2013 20:07, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: > FWIW, the current plan is to have the last normal release in 2015 > and security releases "indefinitely" (2020 or something like > that). Can we make an exception for platform support, e.g. compatibility fixes with new compiler or library versions?

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 04.12.2013 21:28, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >>> 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > As for the question, I think we should wait at leas

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : > >> On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> > >>> As for the question, I think we should wait at least two or three years > >>> before "sunsetting"

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : >> On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >>> As for the question, I think we should wait at least two or three years >>> before "sunsetting" 2.7. >> >> I've been thinking we should move Python 2.7 to security-

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw : > On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >>As for the question, I think we should wait at least two or three years >>before "sunsetting" 2.7. > > I've been thinking we should move Python 2.7 to security-fix only around the > Python 3.5 time frame, with a coup

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >As for the question, I think we should wait at least two or three years >before "sunsetting" 2.7. I've been thinking we should move Python 2.7 to security-fix only around the Python 3.5 time frame, with a couple more years of promised security

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 04.12.2013 19:14, schrieb Michael Foord: > > On 4 Dec 2013, at 18:13, Christian Heimes > wrote: > >> Am 04.12.2013 19:01, schrieb Michael Foord: I've added it to the agenda with your name... As my name is being attached to a discussion of ending the development of Python

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On mer., 2013-12-04 at 18:19 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On mer., 2013-12-04 at 09:11 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > > > > > > > > > > Defi

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Foord
On 4 Dec 2013, at 18:13, Christian Heimes wrote: > Am 04.12.2013 19:01, schrieb Michael Foord: >>> I've added it to the agenda with your name... >>> >>> As my name is being attached to a discussion of ending the >>> development of Python 2, will there be a place for people to >>> check their pi

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 04.12.2013 19:01, schrieb Michael Foord: >> I've added it to the agenda with your name... >> >> As my name is being attached to a discussion of ending the >> development of Python 2, will there be a place for people to >> check their pitchforks at the door? =) >> > > On the contrary, I think

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Zachary Ware
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Michael Foord wrote: > Hello all, > > As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North > America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running > from approximately 10am to 4pm. > > As Python committers you're invited,

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Foord
On 4 Dec 2013, at 18:01, Zachary Ware wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Michael Foord > wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North >> America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running >> from approxim

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Foord
On 4 Dec 2013, at 17:48, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Michael Foord > wrote: > > On 4 Dec 2013, at 14:26, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > > > > I've added it to the agenda with your name... > > As my name

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > > On 4 Dec 2013, at 14:26, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > > > > I've added it to the agenda with your name... > As my name is being attached to a discussion of ending the development of Pyt

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Foord
On 4 Dec 2013, at 14:26, Brett Cannon wrote: > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > I've added it to the agenda with your name... Thanks, Michael > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Michael Foord > wrote: > Hello all, > > As with previous years we will be having a La

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >> Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? >> >> > Define "sunset" :) > Stop supporting/EOL. -Brett > > Eli > > >> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Michael Foor

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On mer., 2013-12-04 at 09:11 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > > > > > Define "sunset" :) A romantic evening with the bsddb module perhaps? Then we tie i

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? > > Define "sunset" :) Eli > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Michael Foord wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North >> Ame

Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread Brett Cannon
Summit topic: when are we going to sunset Python 2.7? On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Michael Foord wrote: > Hello all, > > As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North > America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running > from approximately