Re: Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/6/8, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > c) the apache.import_module() function, which is frankly a strange > > beast. It knows how to approximately reload some modules, but has many > > tricks that makes it frankly dangerous, namely the one that causes > > modules with the same name but

Re: Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Gallacher
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Jim Gallacher wrote: What's the mechanism for this, since the generated docs are not in subversion? The docs _are_ in subversion, but in .tex format. The html is included in the distribution tar file for convenience, but I don't think

Re: Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Barry Pearce wrote: I'm not opposed to providing some sort of module or function for psp or publisher or whatever "example" handlers that come with mod_python, just so long as it's not in the core of mod_python itself. To me this is an application/framework issue, not a m

Re: Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Jim Gallacher wrote: What's the mechanism for this, since the generated docs are not in subversion? The docs _are_ in subversion, but in .tex format. The html is included in the distribution tar file for convenience, but I don't think it'd make sense to have both tex and

Re: The 3.2.0 release

2005-06-07 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On 08/06/2005, at 7:19 AM, Jim Gallacher wrote: MODPYTHON-37 Add apache.register_cleanup() According to the FAQ entry linked by Graham, this probably can't be done, so change it's status to closed? Actually, I still believe it can be done, but from memory Grisha expressed reservations a

Re: Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Graham Dumpleton
An update on a few things that I have managed to get working in Vampire in respect of some of the issues below, plus a few other comments. On 08/06/2005, at 6:33 AM, Nicolas Lehuen wrote: One last thing that we should prepare is a clear and definite answer to the zillion users who need to impor

Re: Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On 08/06/2005, at 8:33 AM, Barry Pearce wrote: Indeed Im for fixing it...its on my list of things to do...right after 'do everything the company want RSN' I do believe it should be mod_python that is fixed. I have a VERY big need for reload of modules *without* taking down my server - en

session handling - the next generation

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Gallacher
Hi All, Sorry for the long post, but I think I have a nice contribution to the session handling mechanism, but I've got a bug I just can't track down. Make yourself a cup of coffee, sit down and have a read. In an effort to make session handling more transparent and less error prone, I've ad

Re: Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Barry Pearce
Indeed Im for fixing it...its on my list of things to do...right after 'do everything the company want RSN' I do believe it should be mod_python that is fixed. I have a VERY big need for reload of modules *without* taking down my server - end users are using it and credit card transactions

Re: Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Nicolas Lehuen wrote: Grisha, can you tell us what is the process to release a new version, including the update of the web site ? Updating the site is trivial, I can do it, that's the last thing to worry about. Releasing a new version is a bit more complicated. The ins

Re: Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/6/7, Jim Gallacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Nicolas Lehuen wrote: > > Grisha, can you tell us what is the process to release a new version, > > including the update of the web site ? > > > > Maybe include the web site source files in the subversion repository, > > so that we can edit it ? > > >

Solving the import problem

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
One last thing that we should prepare is a clear and definite answer to the zillion users who need to import a custom utility module. Today, we have 4 ways of importing code : a) the standard "import" keyword. Today, it works unchanged (mod_python doesn't install any import hook). The consequence

Re: Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Gallacher
Nicolas Lehuen wrote: Grisha, can you tell us what is the process to release a new version, including the update of the web site ? Maybe include the web site source files in the subversion repository, so that we can edit it ? As for building the HTML documentation out of the LaTeX files, I'm a

The new mod_python.publisher module loading system

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
I'd especially like to have your advice (do not hesitate to be harsh :) on the new publisher module loading system. It does not uses apache.import_module, and fixes a lot of nasty bugs. However, the new system means that standard Python modules and published pages are not the same things anymore.

The 3.2.0 release

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
As you can see on http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa , there are only two bugs still scheduled for 3.2.0 ; the rest is not scheduled. Should we schedule all bugs for 3.2.0 and only release it once all the bugs are released, or could we make an intermediary release ? I'm in fav

Managing and updating the web site

2005-06-07 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
Grisha, can you tell us what is the process to release a new version, including the update of the web site ? Maybe include the web site source files in the subversion repository, so that we can edit it ? As for building the HTML documentation out of the LaTeX files, I'm a bit at a loss... Has an

New committer: Jim Gallacher

2005-06-07 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
Hi folks - We have a new committer - Jim Gallacher. Thanks Jim for all your contributions to mod_python and for accepting the invitation to become a committer! Cheers, Grisha