Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Georg Brandl
Aahz wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> Why? If wikipedia can do without moderation (for most pages) then why >> couldn't the Python docs? > > If we're strictly talking about user comments, I won't disagree, but the > main docs do need to be "authoritative" IMO. > > Asi

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
Georg Brandl wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: >> As far as noise goes, "new in X" is minor compared to all the stuff >> that's documented that the average user never needs... :-) > > And, of course, the "new in 2.x" could be formatted less space-consuming, > perhaps to the right of the method name

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Georg Brandl
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On 1/21/06, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On this page, 8 of 30 entries have a 'new in' comment. For anyone with no >> interest in the past, these constitute noise. I wonder if for 3.0, the >> timer can be reset and the docs start clean again. To keep them b

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Aahz
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Why? If wikipedia can do without moderation (for most pages) then why > couldn't the Python docs? If we're strictly talking about user comments, I won't disagree, but the main docs do need to be "authoritative" IMO. Aside to Georg: your messages

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - python/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Bill Janssen
The "data:" scheme would be a good one. Bill > Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 21:43 +0100, Thomas Wouters wrote: > > > >> I don't believe this belongs in 2.4, since it can, actually, break code. > >> Code that depends on the current situation, _TestCase__attributename. > >> Fragil

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/21/06, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On this page, 8 of 30 entries have a 'new in' comment. For anyone with no > interest in the past, these constitute noise. I wonder if for 3.0, the > timer can be reset and the docs start clean again. To keep them backwards > compatible, they w

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Terry Reedy
>> http://effbot.org/lib/os.path.join On this page, 8 of 30 entries have a 'new in' comment. For anyone with no interest in the past, these constitute noise. I wonder if for 3.0, the timer can be reset and the docs start clean again. To keep them backwards compatible, they would also have to

Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/21/06, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What Fredrik hacks together there (http://www.effbot.org/lib) is very > impressive. I especially like the "permalinks" in this style: > > http://effbot.org/lib/os.path.join Which (despite having "perma" in its name) evaporates and leaves behind

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - python/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Georg Brandl wrote: > That's okay, but it may be much work to find out which of them use relative > paths, fragments, queries and parameters. Is there a list of these features > somewhere? Not that I know of. Collecting a list of missing schemes in the file might be a good start already. Regard

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - python/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Georg Brandl
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 21 January 2006 13:37, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > The registered ones: > > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes > > I think that these should be supported. That's okay, but it may be much work to find out which of them use relative paths, fra

[Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-21 Thread Georg Brandl
What Fredrik hacks together there (http://www.effbot.org/lib) is very impressive. I especially like the "permalinks" in this style: http://effbot.org/lib/os.path.join What I would suggest (for any new doc system) is a "split" view: on the left, the normal text, on the right, an area with only t

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - pyth on/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Saturday 21 January 2006 13:37, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > The registered ones: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes I think that these should be supported. > Not sure whether urn parsing would also be desirable: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces The "hdl" sche

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r42116 - python/branches/release24-maint/Lib/unittest.py

2006-01-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Georg Brandl wrote: > For 2.5, this would be a good opportunity to add additional schemes > to urlparse. Candidates? The registered ones: http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes Not sure whether urn parsing would also be desirable: http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces Regards, Ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > In that case, what I think we ought to do is not add the DP paths > (i.e. /opt/local) to setup.py specifically to get its readline, but > instead to pick up any libraries that happen to be in DP in > preference to those in OSX by default. If tha

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The import of the Ghostscript case is that the FSF considers a > Makefile stanza clearly intended to cause linkage to a GPL library, > even if optional and supplied by the user, to create a work derived > from that library. A "GNU readline