Fredrik Lundh wrote:
If you would rather contribute by collecting a list of possible
trackers along with who will maintain it, then please do. I am not
going to dive into that quite yet, but if you want to parallelize the
work needed then I would appreciate the help.
that is what I
I just tried creating a pysqlite VS project, and ran into a naming
conflict: the Windows DLL is called sqlite3.dll. So if it is on
sys.path
import sqlite3
might find the DLL, instead of finding the package. Python then
finds that there is no entry point in sqlite3, and raises an
ImportError.
I
Discovered a couple of minor errors in pcbuild.sln and pythoncore.vsproj
while working out how to compile 2.5 on Windows using the VS C++ Toolkit
for the bug day (no Visual Studio at home). FWIW, I eventually ended up
using Nant (using the solution task).
Nant couldn't build 2.5 without the fixes
I updated the PEP to include owners. If this message is sent directly
to you, you are an owner.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0356/
There are still some items without owners as I don't know who will be
leading the charge to get some of the modules in the stdlib. If we
don't have anyone
From discussion on python-3000, it occured to me that this shouldn't
break anything.
This patch adds a .format() method to the string and unicode types.
SF:1463370
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On Sun, Apr 02, 2006, Crutcher Dunnavant wrote:
But I have some questions about this for python 3000.
Please use the python-3000 list for questions like this.
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On 4/2/06, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Yes. We found a way to export all data (except for file attachments),
through a different exporter. This gives all data, unfortunately, it
is ill-formed XML ( is not properly entity-referenced sometimes).
so why
Tim Peters wrote:
[Tim, gripes about ...]
Author: walter.doerwald
Date: Sat Apr 1 22:40:23 2006
New Revision: 43545
Modified:
python/trunk/Doc/lib/libcalendar.tex
python/trunk/Lib/calendar.py
Log:
Make firstweekday a simple attribute instead
of hiding it behind a setter and a
Thomas Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While we're at it, I would like for the new __del__ (which would
probably have to be a new method) to disallow reviving self, just
because it makes it unnecessarily complicated and it's rarely
needed.
I'm not sure the problem is so much that anyone
I'm not sure this is going to be all that helpful. If there's more I can do
to help track down these problems, let me know.
Last night I ran
make test EXTRATESTOPTS='-R :: -uall -r'
on my Mac laptop after a fresh svn up. I wasn't ready for how long that
would run!
I got plenty of test
[Neal Norwitz, on -R testing]
...
For the latest results, see:
http://docs.python.org/dev/results/make-test-refleak.out
Several tests fail consistently with -R. These are the most recent
from the link above: test_decimal test_difflib test_logging
test_optparse test_warnings.
It would be
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:34:18PM -0800, Neal Norwitz wrote:
Review the PEP and let me know what needs to be changed. If your pet
project isn't already in the PEP, assume it has been deferred until
2.6.
I'd like to see Gregory K. Johnson's updated mailbox module (in
sandbox/mailbox/)
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
I see three options:
1. rename sqlite3 again
2. link sqlite3 statically into _sqlite3.pyd
3. stop treating .DLL files as extension modules
I'm actually leaning towards option 3: what is the rationale
for allowing Python extension modules to be named .DLL?
A
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
I just tried creating a pysqlite VS project, and ran into a naming
conflict: the Windows DLL is called sqlite3.dll. So if it is on
sys.path
import sqlite3
might find the DLL, instead of finding the package. Python then
finds that there is no entry point in sqlite3,
Crutcher Dunnavant wrote:
From discussion on python-3000, it occured to me that this shouldn't
break anything.
This patch adds a .format() method to the string and unicode types.
SF:1463370
-1.
For reasons I go into more on the Py3k list, I'd like to see this term
associated with an
Walter Dörwald wrote:
Tim Peters wrote:
Which isn't a good thing to lose. It's not good that the current
Calendar constructor skips that sanity check either (errors should
never pass silently).
I've changed calendar so that firstweekday is only used modulo 7
everywhere (There was only
Hi folks,
I submitted a patch a little while ago to led Python on Darwin/OS X
use the same code path to load extensions it uses on most other Unix-
like platforms. (The reasons for this are several, and mentioned in
the patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006, Crutcher Dunnavant wrote:
From discussion on python-3000, it occured to me that this shouldn't
break anything.
This patch adds a .format() method to the string and unicode types.
SF:1463370
If you're serious, please write up a PEP. I recommend that you start
posting
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Walter Dörwald wrote:
[...]
Range checks should no longer be neccessary, as any value works now.
But now all *clients* of the Calendar class are forced to deal with the fact
that firstweekday may not be greater than seven.
If you want to accept any input value, why
On 4/2/06, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given:
@contextmanager
def gen():
print '__enter__'
yield
print '__exit__'
with gen():
raise StopIteration('body')
I would expect to get the StopIteration exception raised. Instead it's
suppressed by the
the source code is available via the above link; I'll post the ZIP file some-
where tomorrow (drop me a line if you want the URL).
I found some free space on the effbot.org server, so anyone inter-
ested can get the current ZIP file here:
http://effbot.org/tracker-20060403.zip
the zip
[Brett Cannon wrote]
Anyone else think we need a PEP to point to places where externally
maintained code should have bugs or patches reported? I don't want to
hunt down a URL for where to do this every time and so it would be
nice to have a list of what code needs bugs/patches reported where.
[Anthony Baxter wrote]
I've created a searchbar plugin for the firefox search bar that allows
you to search bugs. I think someone created one for the sidebar
http://starship.python.net/~skippy/mozilla/
http://projects.edgewall.com/python-sidebar/
Trent
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Could one of the tracker admins add a Python-3000 group to the SF
trackers (while we're still using them :-)? This is so we can easily
move proposals between Python 3000 and Python 2.x status.
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--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
On 4/3/06, Michael Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure the problem is so much that anyone _wants_ to support
resurrection in __del__, it's just that it can't be prevented.
Well, Java has an answer to that (at least I believe Tim Peters told
me so years ago): it allows resurrection, but
I checked what I owned.
- pgen: yes, if I have time
- GeneratorExit inheriting from BaseException: no, I've pronounced on this
- StopIteration propagation from context managers: I'm giving this to Phillip
--Guido
On 4/3/06, Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I updated the PEP to include
On Monday 03 April 2006 14:45, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Could one of the tracker admins add a Python-3000 group to the SF
trackers (while we're still using them :-)? This is so we can easily
move proposals between Python 3000 and Python 2.x status.
Done.
-Fred
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Fred L. Drake, Jr.
Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This would require a bit __del__ already called on an object,
but don't we have a whole word of GC-related flags?
No.
Neil
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On 4/3/06, Crutcher Dunnavant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From discussion on python-3000, it occured to me that this shouldn't
break anything.
This patch adds a .format() method to the string and unicode types.
SF:1463370
Hmm... Let's not jump to conclusions. While I like your patch, we need
to
According to MSDN, ShellExecute has only six parameters:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp
But in the posixmodule patch at:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkins/2006-April/050698.html
it is
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote:
I updated the PEP to include owners. If this message is sent directly
to you, you are an owner.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0356/
Review the PEP and let me know what needs to be changed. If your pet
project isn't already in the PEP,
[Michael Hudson]
I'm not sure the problem is so much that anyone _wants_ to support
resurrection in __del__, it's just that it can't be prevented.
[Guido]
Well, Java has an answer to that (at least I believe Tim Peters told
me so years ago): it allows resurrection, but will only call the
Done. What exactly do you plan to do apart from editing the docs to
steer people away from file()?
--Guido
On 4/3/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote:
I updated the PEP to include owners. If this message is sent directly
to you, you are an owner.
On 4/2/06, Noam Raphael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/2/06, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried the change, and it turned out that I had to change cPickle a
tiny bit: it uses a 2-tuple which is allocated when the module
initializes to lookup tuples in a dict. I changed it
[A.B., Khalid]
According to MSDN, ShellExecute has only six parameters:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp
But in the posixmodule patch at:
On Apr 3, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Neil Schemenauer wrote:
Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This would require a bit __del__ already called on an object,
but don't we have a whole word of GC-related flags?
No.
Actually there is. Kinda. Currently python's refcounting scheme uses
4 words
Tim Peters wrote:
While we're at it, looks like all the 2.4 buildbots are failing
test_email today.
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Anthony backported the patch that should fix this, so it should be
showing up in 2.4 buildbots soon.
-Barry
:
http://effbot.org/tracker-20060403.zip
the zip file is ~85 megabytes, and expands to about 300 megabyte data.
Can someone (Martin, Barry?) post this on python.org (I don't think
this necessarily needs to be put into svn and I don't have any access
but svn) so Fredrik can free up the space
[Guido]
but don't we have a whole word of GC-related flags?
[Neil S]
No.
[James Y Knight]
Actually there is. Kinda. Currently python's refcounting scheme uses
4 words per object (gc_next, gc_prev, gc_refs, ob_refcnt), and has
one spare word in the padding of PyGC_Head that's just sitting
[Tim]
While we're at it, looks like all the 2.4 buildbots are failing
test_email today.
[Barry]
Anthony backported the patch that should fix this, so it should be
showing up in 2.4 buildbots soon.
? Anthony's
Changed by: anthony.baxter
Changed at: Mon 03 Apr 2006 16:40:28
Branch:
At 08:14 AM 3/31/2006, Tim Peters wrote:
[Phillip J. Eby]
...
As Tim suggested, it'd be better to have the code be generator-specific, at
least for now. That had actually been my original plan, to make it
generator-specific, but I was afraid of breaking encapsulation in the
garbage
Thomas Heller wrote:
But if you make the change to implement option 3, IMO it would be a
good idea to add the Python version number to the .pyd basename as
well.
Can you please elaborate? In the name of what .pyd file do you
want the Python version number? And why? And why is that related
to
Guido van Rossum wrote:
I can't confirm right now (at work, need to install 2.5) but I'm also
wondering what will happen if KeyboardInterrupt or SystemExit is
raised from inside the generator when it's being closed via
__exit__. I suspect a RuntimeError will be raised, whereas I think
these
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 06:06, Tim Peters wrote:
backport of r43578
The email module's parsedate_tz function now sets the daylight
savings flag to -1 (unknown) since it can't tell from the date
whether it should be set.
patch from Aldo Cortesi
is in the blamelist for the runs where
Michael Hudson wrote:
And if we want to have a version of __del__ that can't reference
'self', we have it already: weakrefs with callbacks.
Does that actually work at the moment? Last I heard,
there was some issue with gc and weakref callbacks
as well. Has that been resolved?
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Greg Ewing,
Walter Dörwald wrote:
OK, the property setter does a % 7 now. (But the global
setfirstweekday() still does a range check).
Wouldn't it be better for the setter to raise an exception
if it's out of range? It probably indicates a bug in the
caller's code.
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Greg Ewing, Computer Science Dept,
[Phillip J. Eby]
I'm trying to figure out how to implement this now, and running into
a bit of a snag. It's easy enough for gcmodule.c to check if an
object is a generator, but I'm not sure how safe the dynamic check
actually is, since it depends on the generator's state. In
principle,
[Michael Hudson]
...
What happened to the 'get rid of __del__ in py3k' idea?
Apart from its initial mention, every now again someone asks what
happened to it :-).
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Tim Peters wrote:
We already endure lots of pain to ensure that a weakref callback that
gets executed (not all do) can't see anything that looks like trash.
Okay, so would it be possible for a generator that
needs finalisation to set up a weakref callback, suitably
rooted somewhere so that the
On 4/3/06, Zachary Pincus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry if it's bad form to ask about patches one has submitted -- let
me know if that sort of discussion should be kept strictly on the
patch tracker.
No, it's fine. Thanks for reminding us about this issue.
Unfortunately, without an
I tried out Twisted's test suite with a version of Python built from SVN trunk
today and ran into a few problems. First, the test suite hung indefinitely
using all available CPU time. This apparently was due to a change in the
behavior of __import__: in Python 2.4, __import__('') raises a
Thanks for reminding us about this issue.
Unfortunately, without an explicit ok from one of the Mac maintainers,
I don't want to add this myself. If you can get Bob, Ronald, or Jack
to say ok, I will apply the patch ASAP. I have a Mac OS X.4 box and
can test it, but don't know the
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