Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
May be an external program called by the uninstaller can take care of this, removing what was added to PATH. Or a custom action. There are ways to solve this problem - they just take some effort to implement them. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] constness of interpreter data

2008-09-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
So, er, is this a remotely sane thing to be doing, and does anyone have suggestions? :) Not for 2.6/3.0 - but after that: sounds good. OTOH, I don't see a clear technical *need* for these data to be const. In general, const-ness helps correctness and sharing across processes, and the cases you

Re: [Python-Dev] ?spurious? Timeout in BSDDB under MS Windows

2008-09-08 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: Trent, are you available to look at the ?spurious? timeout failures in bsddb replication code in the Windows buildbot?. Ten seconds timeout should be plenty enough. I can't debug any MS Windows issue myself; this is a Microsoft-free

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:02:06PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: There are 8 open release blockers, a few of which have patches that need review. So I think we are still not ready to release rc1. But it worries me because I think this is going to push the final release beyond our October

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Fredrik Lundh fredrik at pythonware.com writes: So what's the new ETA? Should I set aside some time to work on the patches, say, tomorrow, or is it too late? Given the state of things in the tracker, I'd say it doesn't look too late. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 7, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: (I have a few minor ET fixes, and possibly a Unicode 5.1 patch, but have had absolutely no time to spend on that. is the window still open?) There are 8 open release

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:37 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:02:06PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: There are 8 open release blockers, a few of which have patches that need review. So I think we are still not ready to release rc1.

[Python-Dev] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not have a beta3 Windows installer and I don't have high hopes for rectifying all of these problems

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not have a beta3 Windows installer and I don't have high hopes for rectifying all

Re: [Python-Dev] bsddb

2008-09-08 Thread zooko
On Sep 7, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: FWIW, many years ago in the past when I asked sleepycat about this (long before oracle bought them) they said that python was considered to be the application. Using berkeleydb via python for a commercial application did not require a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Benjamin Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: OTOH, other things *are* available, such as registered extensions. For example, you don't need python on PATH to start a Python script; just invoking the .py file will find the Python interpreter from the registry. But then you don't get to pass arguments to the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Christian Heimes lists at cheimes.de writes: Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and 3.0 on the same day. Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released makes a great headline. It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the development process is

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Heimes lists at cheimes.de writes: Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and 3.0 on the same day. Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released makes a great headline. It's not only the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Antoine Pitrou writes: It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the development process is synchronized between trunk and py3k, that there is no loss of developer focus, and that merges/backports happen quite naturally. As usual, in theory precision is infinite,

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Holden
Greg Ewing wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: OTOH, other things *are* available, such as registered extensions. For example, you don't need python on PATH to start a Python script; just invoking the .py file will find the Python interpreter from the registry. But then you don't get to pass

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on schedule

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread skip
Raymond With the extra time, it would be worthwhile to add dbm.sqlite Raymond to 3.0 to compensate for the loss of bsddb so that shelves Raymond won't become useless on Windows builds. My vote is to separate 2.6 and 3.0 then come back together for 2.7 and 3.1. I'm a bit less sure

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
But then you don't get to pass arguments to the program, get to see the output before the window disappears, etc. Did you actually try before posting? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org