Re: [Python-Dev] ?spurious? Timeout in BSDDB under MS Windows

2008-09-09 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Trent Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: >> Trent, are you available to look at the ?spurious? timeout failures in >> bsddb replication code in the Windows buildbot?. >> >> Ten seconds timeout should be plen

Re: [Python-Dev] new ssl module is incompatible with servers that drop privileges

2008-09-09 Thread Forest
On Tue, September 9, 2008 12:49 pm, Bill Janssen wrote: >> IMHO, this severely limits the new ssl module's utility, and discourages >> good security practices. > > Please file a bug report. A bug report with a patch and tests would > be even better :-). Assign it to me. I filed one, but the bug

Re: [Python-Dev] new ssl module is incompatible with servers that drop privileges

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Janssen
> It accept them only as > paths to their location on the file system, which I believe means that a > server can only support SSL if it has read permission to its private key > file when client connections arrive. This is a problem for servers that > bind to their socket and drop privileges as soo

[Python-Dev] new ssl module is incompatible with servers that drop privileges

2008-09-09 Thread Forest
I've been trying out the new ssl module, and I love it so far, except for the way it accepts private keys and certificates. It accept them only as paths to their location on the file system, which I believe means that a server can only support SSL if it has read permission to its private key file

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > 3781 warnings.catch_warnings fails gracelessly when recording warnings I just assigned this one to myself - I'll have a patch up for review shortly (the patch will revert back to having this be a regression test suite only feature). Cheers, Nick. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 >> beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer >> to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean >> u

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r66321 - in python/trunk: Doc/library/warnings.rst Lib/asynchat.py Lib/bsddb/test/test_early_close.py Lib/mimetools.py Lib/test/test___all__.py Lib/test/test_excepti

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 9, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> It's also a bug that was introduced by the late API changes made to >> WarningsRecorder in r66135 (when WarningsRecorder was moved from >> test.test_support to warnings to make it officially supported for use >> outside the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread skip
Barry> 3777 long(4.2) now returns an int Looks like Amaury has already taken care of this one. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/opt

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:22 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Even if I can't contribute very much at the moment, I'm still +1 to that. I doubt Python would get nice publicity if we released a 3.0 but had to tell everyone, "but don't really use it yet, it may

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: [Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't al

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issu

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Perhaps it's time to separate the 2.6 and 3.0 release schedules? I don't care if the next version of OSX contains 3.0 or not -- but I do care about it having 2.6. I've talked with my contact at M

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Jesse Noller
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:13 PM, "Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r66321 - in python/trunk: Doc/library/warnings.rst Lib/asynchat.py Lib/bsddb/test/test_early_close.py Lib/mimetools.py Lib/test/test___all__.py Lib/test/test_excepti

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 9, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: It's also a bug that was introduced by the late API changes made to WarningsRecorder in r66135 (when WarningsRecorder was moved from test.test_support to warnings to make it officially supported for us

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r66321 - in python/trunk: Doc/library/warnings.rst Lib/asynchat.py Lib/bsddb/test/test_early_close.py Lib/mimetools.py Lib/test/test___all__.py Lib/test/test_excepti

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 2008-09-09 02:49, brett.cannon wrote: >> Author: brett.cannon >> Date: Tue Sep 9 02:49:16 2008 >> New Revision: 66321 >> >> Log: >> warnings.catch_warnings() now returns a list or None instead of the custom >> WarningsRecorder object. This makes the API simpler to use as

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Raymond> With the extra time, it would be worthwhile to add dbm.sqlite > Raymond> to 3.0 to compensate for the loss of bsddb so that shelves > Raymond> won't become useless on Windows builds. > > My vote is to separate 2.6 and 3.0 then come back together for

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Sure, we lose the ability to add last-minute -3 warnings. But I think > that's a pretty minor issue (and those warnings have a tendency to > subtly break things occasionally, so we shouldn't do them last-minute > anyway). Hey, if we catch all the things that need -3 warni

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r66321 - in python/trunk: Doc/library/warnings.rst Lib/asynchat.py Lib/bsddb/test/test_early_close.py Lib/mimetools.py Lib/test/test___all__.py Lib/test/test_excepti

2008-09-09 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 2008-09-09 02:49, brett.cannon wrote: > Author: brett.cannon > Date: Tue Sep 9 02:49:16 2008 > New Revision: 66321 > > Log: > warnings.catch_warnings() now returns a list or None instead of the custom > WarningsRecorder object. This makes the API simpler to use as no special > object > must b

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Georg Brandl
Guido van Rossum schrieb: >>> Perhaps it's time to separate the 2.6 and 3.0 release schedules? I >>> don't care if the next version of OSX contains 3.0 or not -- but I do >>> care about it having 2.6. >> >> I'm not really sure what good that would do us unless we wanted to >> bring 3.0 back to the