On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
I see the confusion. I think Martin meant more about open issues that
required discussion, not simply issues that had a patch ready to go.
I'm curious - if one isn't supposed to ping the mailing list every time, how
does one ask the tracker
On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
I see the confusion. I think Martin meant more about open issues that
required discussion, not simply issues that had a patch ready to go.
Ach. I hit 'send' too soon. I also wanted to say: it seemed quite clear to me
that Martin
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com writes:
Speaking of which... I have a mac-mini that could be used for a
buildbot. How much work is needed to kickstart a buildbot, taking
into account that I'd prefer to have a buildbot with different
configure-flags that the default unix build (that is,
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker
doesn't have an OS classifier or ability to add
tags ? Since a number of issues reported seem to
Just to remind about my +1 for user editable tags.
There is one. In
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:54 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote:
Bill In any case, they shouldn't be needed on buildbots maintained by
Bill the PSF.
Sure. My question was related to humans building binary distributions
though. Unless that becomes fully automated so the release manager can
In article 4bc697d2.4020...@v.loewis.de,
Martin v. Lowis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Greg Ewing wrote:
Michael Foord wrote:
Building Python requires, I believe, the XCode development tools to be
installed. Even then, building a full version of Python - with *all*
the C extensions that are
In article 4bc63599.5020...@voidspace.org.uk,
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
A build on my machine produces output similar to:
Python build finished, but the necessary bits to build these modules
were not found:
_bsddb
third-party (Sleepycat) library needed (see the
In article 4bc61278.7020...@v.loewis.de,
Martin v. Lowis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Ned Deily wrote:
That *is* something that the PSF could help with. I
would be happy to help with that myself, although my time to do so will
be very limited for the next few weeks.
The PSF still has a
Whilst making Python easier to build on the Mac is certainly a worthy
goal, the point of my post was to demonstrate (in reply to an email by
Greg Ewing) *why* building a *full* Python from source was non-trivial.
I personally only build Python from source to test changes to
core-Python and am
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 14:43, David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote:
Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com writes:
The tests are run on a native Win32 build as compiled by VS2008. The
functionality is Win32 specific and wouldn't work on Cygwin, so the tests
are skipped there. I believe
anatoly techtonik wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Or even a separate OS field with Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, *BSD, Other as the options?
It is not uncommon when code written on Unix can affect both MacOS and
Windows, so you need to be able to
Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com writes:
anatoly techtonik wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at
gmail.comwrote:
Or even a separate OS field with Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, *BSD, Other as the options?
It is not uncommon when code written on Unix can
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com writes:
anatoly techtonik wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at
gmail.comwrote:
Or even a separate OS field with Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, *BSD, Other as the options?
It is not uncommon when code written on
Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com writes:
That's where the discussion started - whether or not moving that
information out to a separate field would actually be an improvement or
not. I don't use the tracker intensively enough to give a considered
opinion.
For me, the less UI overhead the
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 02:31:23PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
We already have Macintosh and Windows in the multi-select component field.
It would be nice if the bug interface didn't grow more complicated than it
already is.
+1
There isn't any need for yet another classification.
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:20, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker
doesn't have an OS classifier or ability to add
tags ? Since a number of issues
Ned Any idea what type of machine it is and where it is currently
Ned located?
I seem to recall it is/was a G4 XServe. My guess as to location would be at
xs4all.nl.
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http://bugs.python.org/issue2987
This deals with a feature request of parsing an IPv6 URL according to
standards. The patch is pretty complete and we have good test coverage
too.
Is it okay to include this in Python 2.7 b2 release? It would be a
worthy addition.
--
Senthil
Yes, we have different opinions. My personal take is to wait a week before
you email python-dev if there has been no activity. That is enough time for
people interested in the patch to get to it as we all have different
schedules. Any faster and it feels like noise on the list to me.
Brett (from
What's non-trivial about it?
Building a DMG file, in a way that the output will actually work on most
other systems.
As Ronald pointed out, the installer build script does all of the dirty
work of building the install disk image (the .dmg file), including
downloading and building
Ned Deily wrote:
In article 4bc61278.7020...@v.loewis.de,
Martin v. Lowis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Ned Deily wrote:
That *is* something that the PSF could help with. I
would be happy to help with that myself, although my time to do so will
be very limited for the next few weeks.
The
In the first builds, I have noticed that the build master seems to
execute the builds as a Unix system, so isn't building with the
universalsdk option or as a framework, though the latter would
probably need a bit of glue to make the framework available just
locally to the buildbot process.
Senthil Kumaran wrote:
http://bugs.python.org/issue2987
This deals with a feature request of parsing an IPv6 URL according to
standards. The patch is pretty complete and we have good test coverage
too.
Is it okay to include this in Python 2.7 b2 release? It would be a
worthy addition.
Martin v. Löwis martin at v.loewis.de writes:
[...]
2. My personal recommendation is to allow it: while it *is* a new
feature, it is a feature that doesn't change any API.
That's my opinion too.
Regards
Antoine.
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In article 19399.11323.946604.992...@montanaro.dyndns.org,
s...@pobox.com wrote:
Ned Any idea what type of machine it is and where it is currently
Ned located?
I seem to recall it is/was a G4 XServe. My guess as to location would be at
xs4all.nl.
If it were working that could be
If it were working that could be of use. It would not be able to run OS
X 10.6 but having a 10.5 system PPC system as a buildbot would certainly
be useful; it should be fine for the default installer configuration
builds. (Alas, I don't expect to be anywhere in the vicinity in the
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:41, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 4bc697d2.4020...@v.loewis.de,
Martin v. Lowis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Greg Ewing wrote:
Michael Foord wrote:
Building Python requires, I believe, the XCode development tools to be
installed. Even then,
Yes, we have different opinions. My personal take is to wait a week before
you email python-dev if there has been no activity. That is enough time for
people interested in the patch to get to it as we all have different
schedules. Any faster and it feels like noise on the list to me.
Brett (from
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes:
Not sure what you mean by make available - I thought this is just a
matter of configure options?
Building as a framework, yes. But I think there's some steps to take
to then have the test python binary use the locally built framework
while running
Comments inline. Nothing showstopping, mostly just spewing obscure
background information...
Overall, congratulations! I'm fine with the implementation going in
and the PEP being marked as accepted as long as you get to the
clarifications I suggest below soon after.
--Guido
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010
Guido van Rossum wrote:
[...]
Implementation strategy
===
This feature is targeted for Python 3.2, solving the problem for those
and all future versions. It may be back-ported to Python
Is there time given that 2.7b1 was released?
I would hope we have learned out
Brian Curtin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:20, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
mailto:techto...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
I am surprised to see that the
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Building the Mac installer requires volunteer time which I'm not sure
that more hardware will fix - compiling a full build of Python for Mac
OS X (with all the Python modules like Tkinter etc) requires expertise
which only
Bill Janssen wrote:
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
[..]
It would take even more expertise to capture the remaining pieces in the
script, too, and no living person has that much expertise to write the
script (perhaps there are one or two people, and they don't have the time).
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
That's an ideal case, but it doesn't work, because more or less senior
committers are already too busy. If they do not even have time to
review issues, followup on patches - how can they monitor who reached
the appropriate karma level?
The practice proves to be
anatoly techtonik wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
Anatoly, I am now answering only in Distutils-SIG.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
wrote:
[..]
Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with
Keeping the knowledge in the makefile or script in the source tree would
let the rules change across branches without affecting the build master.
Though if having more specific rules in the master was easier, I'd be
fine with that too.
Intuitively, I find the set of batch files used for
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