Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 06:57, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: Would be enough to raise an ERROR at configure time if OSF test is positive?. To delete that intentional ERROR would be trivial. Oh really? I have no clue of how to do that. Doesn't like like a good deprecation to me. :) Is printing a

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Jesus Cea jcea at jcea.es writes: Would be enough to raise an ERROR at configure time if OSF test is positive?. To delete that intentional ERROR would be trivial. I think it's ok. Noone will probably notice anyway. Regards Antoine. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Alias for distutils.file_util.write_file in e.g. shutils

2010-05-03 Thread Olemis Lang
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: a similar function in    e.g. shutils module ? A: Yes :) Basically, anything useful in distutils.file_util and distutils.dir_util can maove in Shutil. That's why I added make_archive (and unpack_archive) Please add

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2010, at 08:58 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 21:09, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: Though maybe it should be called Conclusion instead of Accepted and used for Rejected PEPs, as well? Good point.  What do you think about 'Resolution'? Fine with me. I've

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: but in fact, the scripts make Resolution optional (it's kind of a pain to make it required just for Standards Track PEPs - contributions welcome). It will also be a pain to retroactively update older PEPs with the

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 30, 2010, at 04:28 PM, Steve Holden wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: As to Guido's point about the decision making process, Nick's right. I just want to make sure we can capture the resolution in the PEP, be it by BDFL pronouncement or hey, silence is acceptance email. I don't think

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2010, at 07:12 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: IIRC in the IETF this is done by the committee chair. I think it's a good idea to have this be a single person to avoid endless indecision. It then seems that this role should go to the release manager of the upcoming feature release.

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On May 01, 2010, at 07:12 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: IIRC in the IETF this is done by the committee chair. I think it's a good idea to have this be a single person to avoid endless indecision. It then seems that this role

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
In the meantime, let's groom Benjamin to be the Sacred Next Uncle Galvanizing the Gamut of Language Evolution. I don't think anybody having such a position permanently can really work. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Jesus Cea wrote: On 26/04/10 22:00, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Maybe we can drop OSF/1 safely supporting Tru64 yet, but we don't have any buildbot running any of this systems... Dropping support is fine with me, in the long term. If PEP 11 is truly followed, we should deprecate support in one

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/5/3 Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: I do think it makes sense for the RM to assume these responsibilities where Guido either can't or doesn't want to make the final decision. I think it will fairly substantially

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Holden
Benjamin Peterson wrote: 2010/5/3 Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: I do think it makes sense for the RM to assume these responsibilities where Guido either can't or doesn't want to make the final decision. I think it will

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/10 21:55, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Just to rephrase: the point of this deprecation cycle is to give users a chance to take over maintenance, and to declare, in public, that they are interested in that port. If nobody steps forward, we can

[Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Brett Cannon
Since 2.7 is probably going to exist for a while, I am running Clang 2.7's static analyzer (``clang --static``) over trunk. It's mostly just finding stuff like unneeded variable initialization or variables that are never used (compilation is picking up unused returned values, almost all from

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/5/3 Brett Cannon br...@python.org: Since 2.7 is probably going to exist for a while, I am running Clang 2.7's static analyzer (``clang --static``) over trunk. It's mostly just finding stuff like unneeded variable initialization or variables that are never used (compilation is picking up

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Benjamin Peterson benjamin at python.org writes: 2010/5/3 Brett Cannon brett at python.org: When I check in these changes I will do it file by file, but my question is how to handle Misc/NEWS. I have gone through the underscores and the 'a's in Modules and already have six modified

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Brett Cannon
I'll just do a single entry saying that the static analyzer was used and not list the files. And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. On May 3, 2010 4:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. Would it be finally time to standardize all C files on a 4-spaces indentation rule? I understand the

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Holden
Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. Would it be finally time to standardize all C files on a 4-spaces indentation

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 03, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Steve Holden wrote: Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. Would it be finally time to

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Alexandre Vassalotti
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: Now would be a good time to convert the C files to 4 space indents.  We've only been talking about it for a decade at least. Will changing the indentation of source files to 4 space indents break patches on the bug tracker?

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Will changing the indentation of source files to 4 space indents break patches on the bug tracker? Plain patch will choke, but patch -l might accept them. I have only read the documentation, though, and don't know whether it does in practice. Regards, Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Steve Holden wrote: Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. Would it be finally time to standardize all C files on a