On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 11:24 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
>>
>> Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>
>>> My personal opinion is that we should be trying to get the standard
>>> library to the point where __all__ definitions are unnecessary - if a
>>> name isn't in __al
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
By the way, did you intend to send this off-list?
No, I didn't realise I hadn't sent it to the list.
If you don't document them, I won't use them, because I won't
know if it's one of these don't-ask-don't-tell pseudo-public
functions or something private that's accidenta
On 11/12/2010 7:28 PM, antoine.pitrou wrote:
Author: antoine.pitrou
Date: Sat Nov 13 01:28:53 2010
New Revision: 86441
Log:
Switch from gmane to another provider for NNTP tests (as gmane isn't reliable
enough). Also, use setUpClass in order to connect only once per test run.
class Ne
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 11/12/2010 2:42 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>> Maybe I've missed something, but is there any reason to add a new
>> parameter in a bugfix release?
>> (apart from security issues)
>
> This is a bugfix. We discussed this (with Tim's participatio
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:46 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> Ok, good answer. In this case, I vote +1 to remove completly the ANSI version
>> from all Python modules.
>
> I think caution is still necessary. So I propose to deprecate byte
> filenames on Windows in 3.2, with removal in 3.3. People w
On 11/12/2010 3:32 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 11/12/2010 2:42 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:22:19 +0100 (CET)
terry.reedy wrote:
+
+ .. versionadded:: 2.7
+ The *autojunk* parameter.
I just realized that this should say 2.7.1 so people know not to use it
with the o
On 11/12/2010 3:08 PM, Hatem Nassrat wrote:
A colleague of mine came across something anecdotal when working with
lambdas, it is expressed by the following code snippet.
In [1]: def a():
...: for i in range(10):
...: def b():
...: return i
...:
On 11/12/2010 2:42 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:22:19 +0100 (CET)
terry.reedy wrote:
+
+ .. versionadded:: 2.7
+ The *autojunk* parameter.
Maybe I've missed something, but is there any reason to add a new
parameter in a bugfix release?
(apart from security
A colleague of mine came across something anecdotal when working with
lambdas, it is expressed by the following code snippet.
In [1]: def a():
...: for i in range(10):
...: def b():
...: return i
...: yield b
...:
...:
In [2]: func
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:53:00 +0100
"Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> > Thanks Martin, for all you do to keep our infrastructure humming along
> > smoothly, including the recent Roundup migration.
>
> I just write the announcements :-) In this case. thanks should also
> extend to Izak Burger of Upfront H
> Thanks Martin, for all you do to keep our infrastructure humming along
> smoothly, including the recent Roundup migration.
I just write the announcements :-) In this case. thanks should also
extend to Izak Burger of Upfront Hosting who did most of the setup
(I just did the DNS changes), and to b
> Ok, good answer. In this case, I vote +1 to remove completly the ANSI version
> from all Python modules.
I think caution is still necessary. So I propose to deprecate byte
filenames on Windows in 3.2, with removal in 3.3. People who think this
is a terrible mistake and breaks there applications
> I'm not talking about Windows obviously. POSIX filenames are natively
> bytes, so if you get a bytes filename from an external source, it makes
> sense to reuse the bytes form.
>
> I think it would be a mistake to allow bytes filenames under POSIX but
> not under Windows. It makes porting harder
Hello,
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:22:19 +0100 (CET)
terry.reedy wrote:
> +
> + .. versionadded:: 2.7
> + The *autojunk* parameter.
Maybe I've missed something, but is there any reason to add a new
parameter in a bugfix release?
(apart from security issues)
Regards
Antoine.
__
On 12 November 2010 16:15, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>
>>As you may have noticed: I updated the buildbot master to release 0.8.2.
>>If you notice any problems, please post them here.
>
> Pretty! My buildbot seems fine.
Yes, I like the new look.
>
On 11/12/2010 4:32 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
bugs.python.org is now on the new hardware. There have been some
problems in the migration: the old hardware would start failing before
the scheduled migration date, so the migration was done early, causing
outage for some people who then the old ad
On 11/12/2010 3:44 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
Hi,
My buildbot has been failing for some time because of these 2 issues,
both related to the fact that tests are hanging when run as a service
(and hence have no display to open GUI elements on). Both issues have
patches, and as far as I am aware, the pat
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On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>As you may have noticed: I updated the buildbot master to release 0.8.2.
>If you notice any problems, please post them here.
Pretty! My buildbot seems fine.
>Slave operators can upgrade their installations at their own pace;
>buildbot is hig
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:13:08 +0100
Victor Stinner wrote:
> On Thursday 11 November 2010 21:02:43 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:44:52 +0100
> >
> > "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> > > > How do you support cross-platform code using bytes filenames?
> > > > IIRC, it has already been a
On Thursday 11 November 2010 20:50:35 you wrote:
> > Even if I hate the MBCS encoding, because it replaces undecodable
> > characters by similar glyphs by default, I'm not certain that it is a
> > good idea to drop the bytes API. Can it be a problem to port programs
> > from Python2 to Python3? Do
On Thursday 11 November 2010 21:02:43 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:44:52 +0100
>
> "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> > > How do you support cross-platform code using bytes filenames?
> > > IIRC, it has already been argued that it was an important feature. Many
> > > filesystem-related
On Thursday 11 November 2010 23:01:32 you wrote:
> > Sure, it will divide the number of lines, of the code specific to
> > Windows, by two.
>
> Can we get most of the code cleanup benefit without the backwards
> compatibility risk by doing the decode from 'mbcs' on our side of the
> fence?
I crea
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:57 AM, georg.brandl
wrote in a commit:
> Add a deprecated-removed directive that allows to give the version of removal
> for deprecations.
This sounds pretty general-purpose rather than Python-specific. Any
chance this will move into Sphinx? I know a few projects that
Am 11.11.2010 23:15, schrieb Nick Coghlan:
If we instead adopt the explicit policy that private APIs are:
- imported modules (with the exception of os.path)
- any names starting with a leading underscore
Then we get the 3 API tiers you describe: core public API in __all__,
other public functions
On 11/11/2010 11:24 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
My personal opinion is that we should be trying to get the standard
library to the point where __all__ definitions are unnecessary - if a
name isn't in __all__, it should start with an underscore (and if that
is true, then the __
bugs.python.org is now on the new hardware. There have been some
problems in the migration: the old hardware would start failing before
the scheduled migration date, so the migration was done early, causing
outage for some people who then the old address in their DNS caches.
In addition, there was
As you may have noticed: I updated the buildbot master to release 0.8.2.
If you notice any problems, please post them here.
Slave operators can upgrade their installations at their own pace;
buildbot is highly backwards compatible. As a recommendation, I suggest
that slaves run at least at the ver
> Additionally:
>
> d) Over a socket (like the HTTP protocol) -> Bytes.
Sure. However, you can't really expect that the bytes you receive
over the socket are a meaningful filename on your local Windows
installation. So it would be a bug in the application to not decode
the bytes that you receive
Hi,
My buildbot has been failing for some time because of these 2 issues,
both related to the fact that tests are hanging when run as a service
(and hence have no display to open GUI elements on). Both issues have
patches, and as far as I am aware, the patches fix the issues
reasonably well. What c
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