Le mercredi 23 février 2011 à 08:35 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit :
This commit introduced tabs, at least in dynload_dl.c.
WHAT? No, I didn't introduced new tabs: dynload_dl.c always used tabs.
Anyway, I converted tabs to spaces in r88527.
Victor
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On 02/22/2011 11:03 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think there are many people still finding %-style more practical for
simple uses,
It's also a clash of cultures. People coming from a C/Unix background
typically find %-style format obvious and self-explanatory, while people
coming from
On 02/22/2011 07:32 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On 2/22/2011 6:28 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
Quoting PEP 3101:
An example of the 'getitem' syntax:
My name is {0[name]}.format(dict(name='Fred'))
It should be noted that the use of 'getitem' within a
On 2011-02-23, at 12:30 , Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
On 02/22/2011 11:03 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think there are many people still finding %-style more practical for
simple uses,
It's also a clash of cultures. People coming from a C/Unix background
typically find %-style format obvious and
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Jesus Cea writes:
Every time I read a message from [long, incompletewink list] and
so many others python-devs (not an exhaustive list, if you are not
there, you probably should, sorry :), I feel I am faking
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
The ViewVC configuration has significantly changed, so I originally
tried to adjust the old configuration. I went now the other path of
configuring starting with the new configuration template. I may have
broken things
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wrote:
Because keys are not quote-delimited, it is not possible to
specify arbitrary dictionary keys (e.g., the strings 10 or
:-]) from within a format string.
I was curious as to whether or not nested substitution
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:32:56 -0500, Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
You are correct, I didn't exactly implement the PEP on this point,
probably as a shortcut. I think there's an issue somewhere that
discusses this, but I can't find it. The CPython implementation is
really using If
Hello,
I think it was a slight mistake to remove the link to the issue tracker
from the sidebar in the core development section. Dave Beazley just
complained about it
(http://twitter.com/dabeaz/status/40397577916661760) and I think it
will probably confuse other people too. Could we add it back
On 02/23/2011 09:42 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:32:56 -0500, Eric Smithe...@trueblade.com wrote:
You are correct, I didn't exactly implement the PEP on this point,
probably as a shortcut. I think there's an issue somewhere that
discusses this, but I can't find it. The
+1, I often use that link as well.
2011/2/23 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
Hello,
I think it was a slight mistake to remove the link to the issue tracker
from the sidebar in the core development section. Dave Beazley just
complained about it
On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Ah, how (much more) confused would we be if we didn't have the PEPs
and mailing list archives to remind ourselves of what we were thinking
years ago...
True. And how much more useful it would be if it were incorporated into the
documentation
Eric Smith wrote:
On 2/22/2011 6:28 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
Quoting PEP 3101:
An example of the 'getitem' syntax:
My name is {0[name]}.format(dict(name='Fred'))
It should be noted that the use of 'getitem' within a format string
is much
On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Ah, how (much more) confused would we be if we didn't have the PEPs
and mailing list archives to remind ourselves of what we were thinking
years ago...
True. And how much more useful it would be if it were incorporated into
the documentation
As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list
(quoting Guido's blog post
http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html
)
Python 0.9.0 was released on 20 Feb 1991
Python 3.2.0 was released on 20 Feb 2011
Python's come a long way.
I look forward to the
I won't add the link back, but I will try to change the global link on the
website to point to the devguide. python.org/dev/ at this point exists
purely to not break pre-existing links.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 07:58, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hello,
I think it was a slight
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list
(quoting Guido's blog post
http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html
)
Python 0.9.0 was released on 20 Feb 1991
Python 3.2.0 was
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:30:54 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
I won't add the link back, but I will try to change the global link on the
website to point to the devguide. python.org/dev/ at this point exists
purely to not break pre-existing links.
There are items there that are out
I assume you are having me do this because you still plan to cut separate
releases. Is there a minimum Python version that needs to be supported?
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 18:23, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2011/2/22 brett.cannon python-check...@python.org:
Author: brett.cannon
On 23.02.2011 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list
(quoting Guido's blog post
http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html
)
Python 0.9.0
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote:
..
Issue filed. It already has a patch. That was fast!. Now I can sit back
waiting for 3.2.1 before touching my project again :). Mixed feelings
about the waiting. I hope it is short.
It looks like you don't need delay your
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:52, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:30:54 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
I won't add the link back, but I will try to change the global link on
the
website to point to the devguide. python.org/dev/ at this point exists
2011/2/23 Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net:
On 23.02.2011 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list
(quoting Guido's blog post
2011/2/23 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
I assume you are having me do this because you still plan to cut separate
releases. Is there a minimum Python version that needs to be supported?
2.5 but that's only for benchmarking purposes IIRC.
--
Regards,
Benjamin
Does the benchmarking use the 2to3 script? I'm asking because package
execution is not supported that far back.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:38, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2011/2/23 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
I assume you are having me do this because you still plan to cut
2011/2/23 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
Does the benchmarking use the 2to3 script? I'm asking because package
execution is not supported that far back.
Correct. But I suppose, it wouldn't really be harmful to add __main__.
Just a no-op.
--
Regards,
Benjamin
Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine,
and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :)
No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back,
and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.9 in time. Guido
then kept the machine ever since.
Regards,
Am 23.02.2011 19:30, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I won't add the link back
Why not? It's a useful link apparently. The Developer's Guide
link does not hint that it will be the only way to find the
bug tracker.
It's like adding the download page at the end of the tutorial -
you can get Python only if
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:21:58 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:52, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:30:54 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
I won't add the link back, but I will try to change the global link on
On Feb 23, 2011, at 08:43 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine,
and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :)
No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back,
and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.9 in
On 23.02.2011 12:31, Victor Stinner wrote:
Le mercredi 23 février 2011 à 08:35 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit :
This commit introduced tabs, at least in dynload_dl.c.
WHAT? No, I didn't introduced new tabs: dynload_dl.c always used tabs.
Oh, sorry then: I thought the whole codebase had been
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:53, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:21:58 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:52, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:30:54 -0800
Brett Cannon br...@python.org
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:52, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 23.02.2011 19:30, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I won't add the link back
Why not? It's a useful link apparently. The Developer's Guide
link does not hint that it will be the only way to find the
bug tracker.
But
I just added a Quick Links section to the devguide at the very top which is
short and to the point. I also committed to pydotorg for python.org/dev/ to
redirect to docs.python.org/devguide/, so this whole discussion is dealt
with IMO.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:06, Brett Cannon br...@python.org
On 23.02.2011 20:43, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine,
and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :)
No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back,
and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.9 in time.
On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:52, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 23.02.2011 19:30, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I won't add the link back
Why not? It's a useful link apparently. The Developer's Guide
link does not hint that it will
But python.org/dev/ http://python.org/dev/ is a dead page. I was
trying to avoid adding a redirect for python.org/dev/
http://python.org/dev/ as I was afraid that it would lead to the
website doing something silly like redirecting everything below that
URL, but obviously this can continue
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:38, James Y Knight f...@fuhm.net wrote:
On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:52, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.dewrote:
Am 23.02.2011 19:30, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I won't add the link back
Why not? It's a useful link
I'm guessing that one of these encoding names is recognized by the C
code while the other one takes the slow path via the aliasing code.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm guessing that one of these encoding names is recognized by the C
code while the other one takes the slow path via the aliasing code.
This is absolutely right. In fact I am going to propose adding
strcmp(lower,
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:51, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
But python.org/dev/ http://python.org/dev/ is a dead page. I was
trying to avoid adding a redirect for python.org/dev/
http://python.org/dev/ as I was afraid that it would lead to the
website doing something silly
Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm guessing that one of these encoding names is recognized by the C
code while the other one takes the slow path via the aliasing code.
This is absolutely right. In fact I am going to
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Latin-1 is the official name and the one used internally by Python,
so it would be good to have the test suite and Python code in general
to use that variant of the name (just as utf-8 is preferred over
utf8).
Instead
On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:38, James Y Knight f...@fuhm.net wrote:
On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:52, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 23.02.2011 19:30, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I
Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Latin-1 is the official name and the one used internally by Python,
so it would be good to have the test suite and Python code in general
to use that variant of the name (just as utf-8 is
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Yet 108 for the correct name, so I can't follow your statement
that the wrong variant is used more often.
Hmm, your grepping skills are probably better than mine. I get
$ grep -iw latin-1 Lib/*.py | wc -l
24
and
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Latin-1 is the official name and the one used internally by Python,
In what sense is Latin-1 the official name? The IANA charset
registry has the following listing
Name: ISO_8859-1:1987
Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Yet 108 for the correct name, so I can't follow your statement
that the wrong variant is used more often.
Hmm, your grepping skills are probably better than mine. I get
$ grep -iw
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:21 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
If you open a ticket for this, I'll add the list of hits to
that ticket.
http://bugs.python.org/issue11303
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M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Still, the stdlib and test suite should be examples of using the
correct names.
I won't argue with the stdlib portion of your argument, but I would
think that the best example of test code would be a complete and
thorough check of all options.
~Ethan~
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
Le dimanche 20 février 2011 à 23:22 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit :
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce
Python 3.2 final release.
Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and stabilize the
Python
Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
..
Latin-1 is the official name and the one used internally by Python,
In what sense is Latin-1 the official name? The IANA charset
registry has the following listing
Name:
As for redirects: it's certainly possible to redirect ^/dev$ to
/devguide, leaving /dev..* alone. I can set this up if you want me to.
Please. Or double-check what I put into pydotorg's redirect.txt will
work properly.
What redirect.txt did you edit specifically?
I have now
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 15:40, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
As for redirects: it's certainly possible to redirect ^/dev$ to
/devguide, leaving /dev..* alone. I can set this up if you want me
to.
Please. Or double-check what I put into pydotorg's redirect.txt will
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:32 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
..
In what sense is Latin-1 the official name? The IANA charset
registry has the following listing
Name: ISO_8859-1:1987 [RFC1345,KXS2]
MIBenum: 4
Source:
M.-A. Lemburg writes:
Latin-1 is short for Latin Alphabet No. 1 [...].
I assume that since the HTML standard used the more popular
name Latin-1 for its definition of the default character set
and also made use of the term throughout the spec, it
became the de-facto standard name for
Google Code search limited to python
latin1: 3,489
http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=enlr=q=latin1+lang%3Apythonsbtn=Search
latin-1: 5,604
http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=enlr=q=latin-1+lang%3Apythonsbtn=Search
utf8: 25,341
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Dj Gilcrease digitalx...@gmail.com wrote:
Google Code search limited to python
latin1: 3,489
http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=enlr=q=latin1+lang%3Apythonsbtn=Search
latin-1: 5,604
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
Le dimanche 20 février 2011 à 23:22 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit :
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce
Python 3.2 final release.
Python 3.2
On 2/23/2011 9:19 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Dj Gilcrease digitalx...@gmail.com wrote:
Google Code search limited to python
latin1: 3,489
http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=enlr=q=latin1+lang%3Apythonsbtn=Search
latin-1: 5,604
What redirect.txt did you edit specifically?
It was beta.python.org/build/redirects.txt
http://beta.python.org/build/redirects.txt, but I went ahead and
reverted the change since your solution works.
Ah. That file isn't used, AFAICT, so I now deleted it. If there
are any other
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