On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
Hi,
our current deprecation policy is not so well defined (see e.g. [0]), and it
seems to me that it's something like:
1) deprecate something and add a DeprecationWarning;
2) forget about it after a while;
3) wait a few versions until
On 2011-11-28, at 10:30 , Raymond Hettinger wrote:
On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
How about we agree that actually removing things is usually bad for users.
It will be best if the core devs had a strong aversion to removal.
Instead, it is best to mark APIs as obsolete with a
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Xavier Morel catch-...@masklinn.net wrote:
Not being too eager to kill APIs is good, but giving rise to this kind of
living-dead APIs is no better in my opinion, even more so since Python has
lost one of the few tools it had to manage them (as
Xavier Morel wrote:
Not being too eager to kill APIs is good, but giving rise to this kind of
living-dead APIs is no better in my opinion, even more so since Python has
lost one of the few tools it had to manage them (as DeprecationWarning was
silenced by default). Both choices are harmful to
On 12:14 pm, st...@pearwood.info wrote:
Xavier Morel wrote:
Not being too eager to kill APIs is good, but giving rise to this kind
of
living-dead APIs is no better in my opinion, even more so since Python
has
lost one of the few tools it had to manage them (as DeprecationWarning
was
silenced
On 2011-11-28, at 13:06 , Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Xavier Morel catch-...@masklinn.net wrote:
Not being too eager to kill APIs is good, but giving rise to this kind of
living-dead APIs is no better in my opinion, even more so since Python has
lost one of the few
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
How about we agree that actually removing things is usually bad for users.
It will be best if the core devs had a strong aversion to removal.
Instead, it is best to mark APIs as obsolete with a recommendation to use
something else instead.
There is rarely a need to
On Nov 28, 2011, at 03:36 PM, Petri Lehtinen wrote:
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
That may serve a notion of tidyness or somesuch but in reality it is
a PITA for users making it more difficult to upgrade python versions
and making it more difficult to use published recipes.
I'm strongly against
On 28/11/2011 13:36, Petri Lehtinen wrote:
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
How about we agree that actually removing things is usually bad for users.
It will be best if the core devs had a strong aversion to removal.
Instead, it is best to mark APIs as obsolete with a recommendation to use
something
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
Xavier Morel wrote:
Not being too eager to kill APIs is good, but giving rise to this kind of
living-dead APIs is no better in my opinion, even more so since Python has
lost one of the few tools it had to manage them
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:37, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 12:37:59 -0500
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 07:46, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com
Matt Joiner writes:
This is a great argument. But people want to see new, bigger better
things in the standard library, and the #1 reason cited against this
is we already have too much. I think that's where the issue lies:
Either lots of cool nice stuff is added and supported (we all want
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:19:50 +0900
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Deprecated features are pretty much irrelevant to the height of the
bar for new features. The problem is that there are a limited number
of folks doing long term maintenance of the standard library, and an
Antoine Pitrou writes:
Actually, we don't often get patches for new features. Many new
features are implemented by core developers themselves.
Right. That's not inconsistent with what I wrote, as long as would-be
feature submitters realize what the standards for an acceptable
feature patch
Hi,
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:30:53 -0800
Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
Hi,
our current deprecation policy is not so well defined (see e.g. [0]), and
it seems to me that it's something like:
1) deprecate
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On 28/11/11 06:06, Nick Coghlan wrote:
So, in this context, if the tracker create patch diff from
BASE, it is not safe to merge changes from mainline to the
branch, because if so create patch would include code not
related to my work.
No,
It's published as part of the tracker repo, although I'm not sure exactly
where it lives.
--
Nick Coghlan (via Gmail on Android, so likely to be more terse than usual)
On Nov 29, 2011 6:50 AM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote:
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