On 15 April 2012 18:13, Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
We should publish some advice on creating content managers.
Context managers are a general purpose tool but have a primary
use case of creating and releasing resources. This creates an
expectation that that is what
On 15.04.2012 13:42, kristjan.jonsson wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/88f8ef5785d7
changeset: 76319:88f8ef5785d7
user:Kristján Valur Jónssonkrist...@ccpgames.com
date:Sun Apr 15 11:41:32 2012 +
summary:
Issue #10576: Add a progress callback to gcmodule
files:
Brett Cannon, 14.04.2012 20:12:
My multi-year project -- started in 2006 according to my blog -- to rewrite
import in pure Python and then bootstrap it into CPython as *the*
implementation of __import__() is finally over (mostly)! Hopefully I didn't
break too much code in the process. =)
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 04:17, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, just create a new tracker issue and assign it to me. You already
know better than most what the _prepare() step needs to do :)
I've created http://bugs.python.org/issue14588, and attached the first
version of a patch. I
This is becoming the Manhattan Project of bike sheds.
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2012/4/16 Matt Joiner anacro...@gmail.com:
This is becoming the Manhattan Project of bike sheds.
FreeBSD FAQ contains an entry Why should I care what color the
bikeshed is? which mention a sleep(1) should take fractional second
arguments saga in 1999.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:38:41PM +0200, Victor Stinner
victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
Bikeshedding is maybe a common issue with the discussion around time
function? :-)
Perhaps because everyone of us lives in a different Time-Space
Continuum? ;-)
Oleg.
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:54:41 +0200
Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
The new import cache broke Cython's load of on-the-fly compiled extension
modules, which naively used __import__(module_name) after building them.
I could fix that by moving to imp.load_dynamic() (we know where we put
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:25:42 +0200
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
I suppose that most people don't care that resolution and
precision are different things.
Don't they? Actually, they don't care about resolution since they
receive a Python float.
Regards
Antoine.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:10:31 +0200
brian.curtin python-check...@python.org wrote:
PyErr_SetFromImportErrorWithNameAndPath
Apparently this new function isn't documented anywhere.
Regards
Antoine.
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Antoine Pitrou, 16.04.2012 13:13:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:54:41 +0200
Stefan Behnel wrote:
The new import cache broke Cython's load of on-the-fly compiled extension
modules, which naively used __import__(module_name) after building them.
I could fix that by moving to imp.load_dynamic() (we
We have other instances of this (e.g. the Objects/typeslots.inc file
is generated and checked in), but in the case of importlib, we have
to use the ./python binary for freezing to avoid bytecode
incompatibilities, which obviously is a problem if ./python isn't
built yet.
As for dependencies
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 07:19, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:10:31 +0200
brian.curtin python-check...@python.org wrote:
PyErr_SetFromImportErrorWithNameAndPath
Apparently this new function isn't documented anywhere.
I forgot to write the docs for it when
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:52, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 07:19, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:10:31 +0200
brian.curtin python-check...@python.org wrote:
PyErr_SetFromImportErrorWithNameAndPath
Apparently this new
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:07, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
We have other instances of this (e.g. the Objects/typeslots.inc file
is generated and checked in), but in the case of importlib, we have
to use the ./python binary for freezing to avoid bytecode
incompatibilities,
On Apr 15, 2012, at 01:13 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
We should publish some advice on creating content managers.
I agree, I'm just not sure PEP 8 is the right place for it.
PEP 8 seems like it is structured more as mechanical guidelines for the look
and feel of code, not so much for the
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:21:34 -0400, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:07, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
We have other instances of this (e.g. the Objects/typeslots.inc file
is generated and checked in), but in the case of importlib, we have
to
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:15:16 -0400
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code, surely
we do have source code for the pre-frozen module, and it is just a
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:31, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:15:16 -0400
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code,
I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code, surely
we do have source code for the pre-frozen module, and it is just a matter
of convincing hg that the bytecode is binary, not text?
Cython-generated C
So like execute hg diff on the dependent files and if nothing changed
then touch the auto-generated file w/ 'touch' to prevent future attempts
to execute the target?
Exactly. There might be something better than hg diff, perhaps some form
of hg status.
Regards,
Martin
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 13:04, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code, surely
we do have source code for the pre-frozen module, and it is just a matter
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 13:08, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
So like execute hg diff on the dependent files and if nothing changed
then touch the auto-generated file w/ 'touch' to prevent future attempts
to execute the target?
Exactly. There might be something better than hg
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 13:04, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code, surely
we
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:33:45 -0400
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 13:08, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
So like execute hg diff on the dependent files and if nothing changed
then touch the auto-generated file w/ 'touch' to prevent future attempts
On Apr 16, 2012, at 07:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Wouldn't it be better if Python could compile regardless of the
presence of a hg repository?
If you want it in your $DISTRO, yes please!
-Barry
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:51:35 -0400, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Apr 16, 2012, at 07:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Wouldn't it be better if Python could compile regardless of the
presence of a hg repository?
If you want it in your $DISTRO, yes please!
My impression is that our
Martin v. Löwis, 16.04.2012 16:07:
We have other instances of this (e.g. the Objects/typeslots.inc file
is generated and checked in), but in the case of importlib, we have
to use the ./python binary for freezing to avoid bytecode
incompatibilities, which obviously is a problem if ./python
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:54, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:52, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 07:19, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:10:31 +0200
brian.curtin python-check...@python.org wrote:
Le lundi 16 avril 2012 à 15:27 -0500, Brian Curtin a écrit :
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:54, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 09:52, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 07:19, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr
Hi,
2012/4/16 Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de
On the down side, we would depend on Cython for evolving .
Right, although not as a strict dependency. The code would still work just
fine in plain Python.
Not quite, we are talking of the imp module here...
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Am 16.04.2012 19:44, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:33:45 -0400
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 13:08, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
So like execute hg diff on the dependent files and if nothing changed
then touch the auto-generated
On 16.04.2012 22:14, brian.curtin wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5cc8b717b38c
changeset: 76363:5cc8b717b38c
user:Brian Curtinbr...@python.org
date:Mon Apr 16 15:14:36 2012 -0500
summary:
Add documentation for the new PyErr_SetFromImport* functions
files:
On 16.04.2012 18:15, R. David Murray wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:21:34 -0400, Brett Cannonbr...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:07, Martin v. Löwismar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
We have other instances of this (e.g. the Objects/typeslots.inc file
is generated and
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 18:02, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
On 16.04.2012 22:14, brian.curtin wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5cc8b717b38c
changeset: 76363:5cc8b717b38c
user: Brian Curtinbr...@python.org
date: Mon Apr 16 15:14:36 2012 -0500
summary:
Add
Here is a simplified version of the first draft of the PEP 418. The
full version can be read online.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0418/
I wrote an implementation in pure Python using ctypes for Python 3.3:
https://bitbucket.org/haypo/misc/src/tip/python/pep418.py
I tested it on Linux,
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:11:14 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
No, it's not just an existing Python, it is (at least currently) the same
version of Python being built. Therefore I wrote about the bootstrapping
problems when bytecode changes.
Depending on Cython is better in that
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 20:27, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:11:14 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
No, it's not just an existing Python, it is (at least currently) the same
version of Python being built. Therefore I wrote about the
On 16Apr2012 01:25, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
| I suppose that most people don't care that resolution and
| precision are different things.
If we're using the same definitions we discussed offline, where
- resolution is the units the clock call (underneath) works in (for
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc, 16.04.2012 22:43:
2012/4/16 Stefan Behnel
On the down side, we would depend on Cython for evolving .
Right, although not as a strict dependency. The code would still work just
fine in plain Python.
Not quite, we are talking of the imp module here...
Hmm, right, after
Antoine Pitrou, 17.04.2012 02:27:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:11:14 +0200
Georg Brandl wrote:
No, it's not just an existing Python, it is (at least currently) the same
version of Python being built. Therefore I wrote about the bootstrapping
problems when bytecode changes.
Depending on Cython is
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