Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 30.07.2012 22:59, schrieb Barry Warsaw: >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: >> >>>As I've explained on python-committers, it's currently on hold pending >>>the resolution of some importlib issues as well as a bug with the >

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 30.07.2012 22:59, schrieb Barry Warsaw: > On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > >>As I've explained on python-committers, it's currently on hold pending >>the resolution of some importlib issues as well as a bug with the >>cross-compiling code. I won't issue a concrete date, but

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting pronouncement on PEP 0424

2012-07-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:25 AM, PJ Eby wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> - Most importantly: calling len(obj) and catching TypeError can only >> be a substitute for the real implementation, which IMO ought to check >> for the presence of a tp_len slot. Alas, c

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting pronouncement on PEP 0424

2012-07-30 Thread PJ Eby
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > - Most importantly: calling len(obj) and catching TypeError can only > be a substitute for the real implementation, which IMO ought to check > for the presence of a tp_len slot. Alas, checking hasattr(obj, > '__len__') doesn't quite cut i

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: >As I've explained on python-committers, it's currently on hold pending >the resolution of some importlib issues as well as a bug with the >cross-compiling code. I won't issue a concrete date, but I expect the >release to be made some time before

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 30.07.2012 21:42, schrieb Yury Selivanov: > Hi all, > > What's the status of Python 3.3 beta 2? As I've explained on python-committers, it's currently on hold pending the resolution of some importlib issues as well as a bug with the cross-compiling code. I won't issue a concrete date, but I e

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Stefan Krah
Yury Selivanov wrote: > What's the status of Python 3.3 beta 2? It's postponed until next weekend. Stefan Krah ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/

[Python-Dev] python 3.3 b2

2012-07-30 Thread Yury Selivanov
Hi all, What's the status of Python 3.3 beta 2? Thanks, Yury ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Update PEP-0424 with respect to feedback received.

2012-07-30 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Sure, GvR covered my question in much more clean way in http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-dev/117152/ On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Ifthikhan Nazeem wrote: > The question is not very clear. Are you asking whether function arguments > can have default parameters? > > -- > Thanks > Iftikh

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Update PEP-0424 with respect to feedback received.

2012-07-30 Thread Ifthikhan Nazeem
The question is not very clear. Are you asking whether function arguments can have default parameters? -- Thanks Iftikhan Nazeem *LinkedIn* : http://ae.linkedin.com/in/ifthikhan On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 a

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting pronouncement on PEP 0424

2012-07-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
If you give my second patch an LGTM I'll submit it and you're done. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> Also, I have a few content quibbles: >> >> - Is it really worth flagging a negative return value with Value

Re: [Python-Dev] Pushing issue #12288

2012-07-30 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Pushed. Thank you. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 30.07.2012 12:21, schrieb Andrew Svetlov: >> Is there ok to push http://bugs.python.org/issue12288 in 3.3? >> It looks very easy and straightforward. >> If now is too alte — I'm ok. >> >> Georg Brandl, what's your decisi

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting pronouncement on PEP 0424

2012-07-30 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Also, I have a few content quibbles: > > - Is it really worth flagging a negative return value with ValueError? > I'd just as well clip this to zero. What's the worry? That the > computed value is wrong? But it's only meant to be a hint,

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting pronouncement on PEP 0424

2012-07-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > Guido van Rossum python.org> writes: > >> >> >> Looks good to me, so accepted.But why isn't it visible on >> python.org/dev/peps/ > yet? > > I just realized the text in the python.org repo did not match what I had > locally. > I've pushed wh

Re: [Python-Dev] Pushing issue #12288

2012-07-30 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 30.07.2012 12:21, schrieb Andrew Svetlov: > Is there ok to push http://bugs.python.org/issue12288 in 3.3? > It looks very easy and straightforward. > If now is too alte — I'm ok. > > Georg Brandl, what's your decision? Sure, go ahead. Nobody (I hope) said that every tiny bugfix needs my appro

[Python-Dev] AUTO: Jon K Peck is out of the office

2012-07-30 Thread Jon K Peck
I am out of the office until 08/02/2012. I will be out of the office from July 29 through Aug 2. I expect to have some access to email but will be delayed in responding. Note: This is an automated response to your message "Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 46" sent on 07/30/2012 4:00:03. Th

[Python-Dev] Pushing issue #12288

2012-07-30 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Is there ok to push http://bugs.python.org/issue12288 in 3.3? It looks very easy and straightforward. If now is too alte — I'm ok. Georg Brandl, what's your decision? -- Thanks, Andrew Svetlov ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://ma

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Update PEP-0424 with respect to feedback received.

2012-07-30 Thread Andrew Svetlov
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:10 AM, alex.gaynor wrote: > +In addition, a new function ``operator.length`` hint is added ``operator.length`` or ``operator.length_hint``? > +def length_hint(obj, default): Is there default value for `default` parameter? For example: def length_hint(obj, default=