Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Ned Deily
In article 20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: Any objections to regenerating configure with autoconf 2.69? The current version is based off 2.68, which was release on the 22nd of September 2010. 2.69 was released on the 24th of April,

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:18:04 -0700, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: Any objections to regenerating configure with autoconf 2.69? The current version is based off 2.68, which was release on the

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:12:35AM -0700, R. David Murray wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:18:04 -0700, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: Any objections to regenerating configure with autoconf 2.69? The

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Ned Deily
In article 20121016071236.0792d250...@webabinitio.net, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo as the generated file changes when different committers use

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues Pending Review

2012-10-16 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 14.10.12 21:38, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: In case nobody picks it up, my 5-for-1 offer still stands: if you review five issues, I'll review one of yours. What 50 issues you want I'll review. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Charles-François Natali
My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo as the generated file changes when different committers use different versions. In the past we have had issues with a new autoconf version actually breaking

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:04:46AM -0700, Ned Deily wrote: In article 20121016071236.0792d250...@webabinitio.net, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:43:37AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo as the generated file changes when different committers use different versions. In

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Stefan Krah
Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr wrote: Well, so I guess all committers will have to use the same Linux/FreeBSD/whatever distribution then? AFAICT there's no requirement regarding the mercurial version used by committers either. It should be sufficient to install autoconf-x.y into

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Charles-François Natali
It should be sufficient to install autoconf-x.y into /home/user/bin or something similar. Installing autoconf from source really takes about 3 minutes. Well, maybe, maybe not. autoconf depends on a least m4 and Perl, and you may very well have a compatibility issue here. That's why most

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:12:35AM -0700, R. David Murray wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:18:04 -0700, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: Any objections to regenerating configure with autoconf 2.69? The

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 05:05:23 -0400 Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:43:37AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo as the

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:17:35AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: It should be sufficient to install autoconf-x.y into /home/user/bin or something similar. Installing autoconf from source really takes about 3 minutes. Well, maybe, maybe not. autoconf depends on a least m4 and

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Petri Lehtinen
Trent Nelson wrote: build breaking is another matter, of course. If we are going to mandate a specific version again, that should be documented and checked for. My preference: bump to 2.69 and set AC_PREREQ(2.69). If 2.69 proves unworkable, revert back to 2.68 and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Hynek Schlawack
Am 16.10.2012 um 12:15 schrieb andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org: + For easy to use interface to system randomness please see + :class:`random.SystemRandom`. Is it just my non-native speaker ears, or should there be an “an” before “easy”?

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Svetlov
I dont feel anything wrong with it, but I'm also not native speaker. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Hynek Schlawack h...@ox.cx wrote: Am 16.10.2012 um 12:15 schrieb andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org: + For easy to use interface to system randomness please see +

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Larry Hastings
On 10/16/2012 11:23 AM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: Am 16.10.2012 um 12:15 schrieb andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org: + For easy to use interface to system randomness please see + :class:`random.SystemRandom`. Is it just my non-native speaker ears, or should there be an “an” before

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 16.10.2012 12:43, schrieb Larry Hastings: On 10/16/2012 11:23 AM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: Am 16.10.2012 um 12:15 schrieb andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org: + For easy to use interface to system randomness please see + :class:`random.SystemRandom`. Is it just my non-native

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Well. I rephrased text following suggestion from Larry Hastings. If there are need more clarification please reopen #15936 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: Am 16.10.2012 12:43, schrieb Larry Hastings: On 10/16/2012 11:23 AM, Hynek Schlawack wrote:

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:52:25 +0200 Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: Am 16.10.2012 12:43, schrieb Larry Hastings: On 10/16/2012 11:23 AM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: Am 16.10.2012 um 12:15 schrieb andrew.svetlov python-check...@python.org: + For easy to use interface to system

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Antoine Pitrou writes: But, yes, I would call it higher level rather than easy to use (I don't think there's a need for hyphens, by the way). You don't need them to get the point across, but elderly grammar pedants will think better of you if you use the hyphens. Personally, I hope they'll

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Tweak the threaded example in concurrent.futures

2012-10-16 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:51:21 +0200 (CEST) nick.coghlan python-check...@python.org wrote: + # We can use a with statement to ensure threads are cleaned up promptly with concurrent.futures.ThreadPoolExecutor(max_workers=5) as executor: - future_to_url =

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (3.3): Tweak the threaded example in concurrent.futures

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Adding an url attribute here looks a bit ugly to me. Why not use a dict comprehension for future_to_url? No reason other than the fact it didn't occur to me to do so. Fixed :) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan |

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues Pending Review

2012-10-16 Thread Eli Bendersky
Hello, I have some issues pending 'patch review' hanging for more than two weeks, could somebody please check them out? In case nobody picks it up, my 5-for-1 offer still stands: if you review five issues, I'll review one of yours. Is that a general offer or just for the OP? :-) Seriously,

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 16, 2012, at 05:32 AM, Trent Nelson wrote: Anyway, back to the original question: does anyone know of reasons we shouldn't bump to 2.69? Any known incompatibilities? There will be problems building with 2.69 on Ubuntus older than 12.10, and Debians older than wheezy. % rmadison

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:27:24AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 05:05:23 -0400 Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:43:37AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. The reason

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.3): Tweak the threaded example in concurrent.futures

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:51 AM, nick.coghlan python-check...@python.org wrote: http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a3f27289ec68 changeset: 79746:a3f27289ec68 branch: 3.3 + except Exception as exc: + print('%r generated an exception: %s' % (url, exc))

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/16/2012 09:47 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 16, 2012, at 05:32 AM, Trent Nelson wrote: Anyway, back to the original question: does anyone know of reasons we shouldn't bump to 2.69? Any known incompatibilities? There will be problems

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/16/2012 09:47 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 16, 2012, at 05:32 AM, Trent Nelson wrote: Anyway, back to the original question: does anyone know of reasons we

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:23:00AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/16/2012 09:47 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 16, 2012, at 05:32 AM, Trent

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 10:59 +0200, Stefan Krah wrote: Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr wrote: Well, so I guess all committers will have to use the same Linux/FreeBSD/whatever distribution then? AFAICT there's no requirement regarding the mercurial version used by committers

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge issue #15936: Add link from os.urandom to random.SystemRandom

2012-10-16 Thread MRAB
On 2012-10-16 12:59, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Antoine Pitrou writes: But, yes, I would call it higher level rather than easy to use (I don't think there's a need for hyphens, by the way). You don't need them to get the point across, but elderly grammar pedants will think better of you

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Roumen Petrov
Trent Nelson wrote: [SNIP] diff -r 51ce9830d85a configure.ac --- a/configure.ac Sat Oct 13 11:58:23 2012 -0400 +++ b/configure.ac Tue Oct 16 09:12:56 2012 + @@ -9,6 +9,9 @@ AC_INIT(python, PYTHON_VERSION, http://bugs.python.org/) +BUILDDIR=`pwd` ^