Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python with Python

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Jussi Pakkanen wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Since you're talking about a bootstrap requirement here, the obvious >> question is: What version of Python 3 does it require? Will it be a >> lot of hassle to get hold of (say

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python with Python

2013-06-05 Thread Antonio Cavallo
What's the advantage in writing a new build tool? I'm asking this because I'm doing the same using scons: https://bitbucket.org/cavallo71/fatpython At the moment I'm very interested into this problem: the main advantages I see so far are (in scons) are node dependencies and the fact it is pla

Re: [Python-Dev] HAVE_FSTAT?

2013-06-05 Thread Hossein
Hi. My 2 cents about this: (well I'm only a noob) I had this problem; I don't know about other people's environment, but my environment's problem was that it was actually not POSIX-compliant: it didn't have other file functions as well, but anyway the `fstat` error is the FIRST error you get w

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python with Python

2013-06-05 Thread Jussi Pakkanen
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Since you're talking about a bootstrap requirement here, the obvious > question is: What version of Python 3 does it require? Will it be a > lot of hassle to get hold of (say) Python 3.2, only to uninstall it > when you have your 3.4 built

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python with Python

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Jussi Pakkanen wrote: > - implementation of Meson is 100% Python 3, it does not have a dependency on > the shell and in fact already works on Windows Since you're talking about a bootstrap requirement here, the obvious question is: What version of Python 3 does it

[Python-Dev] Compiling Python with Python

2013-06-05 Thread Jussi Pakkanen
Hello all I'd like to start this email by saying this is not a proposal to change Python's build system. This is just the results of some experimentation you might be interested it. I have been working on a cross-platform build system called Meson, which is implemented in Python 3. For symmetry I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 442 accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/06/2013 18:10, Benjamin Peterson a écrit : I (and Guido) are accepting PEP 442 (Safe object finalization) on the condition that finalizers are only ever called once globally. Congratulations to Antoine on writing yet another PEP that deeply touches the core language in a way that everyone

[Python-Dev] PEP 442 accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
I (and Guido) are accepting PEP 442 (Safe object finalization) on the condition that finalizers are only ever called once globally. Congratulations to Antoine on writing yet another PEP that deeply touches the core language in a way that everyone can agree is an improvement.. I look forward to rev

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add reference implementation for PEP 443

2013-06-05 Thread Łukasz Langa
Dnia 5 cze 2013 o godz. 16:31 Brett Cannon napisał(a): > Any chance you could move your definitions for "generic function" and "single > dispatch" to the glossary and just link to them here? Sure thing. -- Ł ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@py

Re: [Python-Dev] New FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT buildbot

2013-06-05 Thread Kubilay Kocak
On 2/06/2013 3:12 PM, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > Afternoon (UTC+10), > > I'd like to request a new user/pass for a FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT VM guest > I've just setup as a dedicated buildbot slave to complement my other > koobs-freebsd slaves. > > Also, with this and future additions to the FreeBSD build

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 443 Accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Łukasz Langa
On 5 cze 2013, at 09:29, Markus Unterwaditzer wrote: > As somebody who missed the discussion about it and right now took a quick > look at the PEP, i ask myself how subclasses are handled, as i don't see > anything about it in the PEP, just support for ABCs. > > E.g if > >issubclass(Apple

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 443 Accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Markus Unterwaditzer wrote: > As somebody who missed the discussion about it and right now took a quick > look at the PEP, i ask myself how subclasses are handled, as i don't see > anything about it in the PEP, just support for ABCs. > > E.g if > > issubclass(

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 443 Accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Markus Unterwaditzer
As somebody who missed the discussion about it and right now took a quick look at the PEP, i ask myself how subclasses are handled, as i don't see anything about it in the PEP, just support for ABCs. E.g if issubclass(Apple, Fruit) And i call a function which has registered an implementati

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 443 Accepted

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Moore
On 5 June 2013 02:32, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Łukasz, > > Congratulations! I've accepted PEP 443. I've already marked it as > Accepted in the repo. I've also applied some very minor edits in order > to make the text flow a little better in a few places. I think this is > a great PEP -- it's sim