Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread martin
Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque intermittently updated tarball is not acceptable when none of our

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 March 2014 20:16, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque intermittently

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, 2014-03-03 22:38 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: Related question - have you decided yet whether or not to do an rc3? I take a look at current release blocker issues for Python 3.4. I saw bugfixes (ex: upgrade SQLite from 3.8.3 to 3.8.3.1) but also fixes for regressions between

Re: [Python-Dev] unicode_string future, str - basestring, fix or feature

2014-03-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Guido van Rossum writes: Given that the claim Python 2 doesn't support Unicode filenames is factually incorrect (in Python 2.7, most filesystem calls in fact do support Unicode, at least on some platforms), I don't understand what support Unicode means. Just that with open(u\u4e00,

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:16:41 +0100 mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:16:41 +0100 mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy

Re: [Python-Dev] Start writing inlines rather than macros?

2014-03-04 Thread Stefan Krah
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: I do have one question though. Suppose you encounter a compiler that doesn't understand the inline keyword, so you choose the static declaration as Kristján suggested. The resulting Python executable should be functionally correct, but if the optimizer

Re: [Python-Dev] unicode_string future, str - basestring, fix or feature

2014-03-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: Guido van Rossum writes: Given that the claim Python 2 doesn't support Unicode filenames is factually incorrect (in Python 2.7, most filesystem calls in fact do support Unicode, at least on some platforms),

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 04.03.2014 15:52, schrieb Brett Cannon: I have also filed http://bugs.python.org/issue20851 to make sure the devguide covers running tests from a tarball. If the way the release has been handled has still bugged you enough it can be discussed at the language summit, but it would be the

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 Mar 2014 08:15, Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote: Am 04.03.2014 15:52, schrieb Brett Cannon: I have also filed http://bugs.python.org/issue20851 to make sure the devguide covers running tests from a tarball. If the way the release has been handled has still bugged you enough it

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 05, 2014, at 09:24 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: I think it's also the fact that new feature releases are rare and changes of release manager even more so, meaning there's a fair bit of relearning involved every time (since what was appropriate a couple of years earlier may not be appropriate

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other guys on the 3.4 team, and we're all willing to do an rc3 this weekend. I'll add that to PEP 429. In other