Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 4/3/2014 4:02 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Can't we just refer to PySky and leave it at that? Hey! That's an excellent idea! And it avoids the version number prediction/expectation too. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 4/3/2014 7:46 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2014 10:36 AM, R. David Murray wrote: More seriously, I don't believe there should ever be a Py4k the way there was a Py3k, and would prefer not to feed any rumours that there might be. Amen! +1

Re: [Python-Dev] Pyston: a Python JIT on LLVM

2014-04-03 Thread Sturla Molden
Kevin Modzelewski wrote: > Since it's the question that I think most people will inevitably (and > rightly) ask, why do we think there's a place for Pyston when there's PyPy > and (previously) Unladen Swallow? Have you seen Numba, the Python JIT that integrates with NumPy? http://numba.pydata.o

[Python-Dev] Pyston: a Python JIT on LLVM

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Modzelewski
Hi all, I'm excited to announce Pyston, a Python JIT under development at Dropbox, built on top of LLVM. You can read more about it at the introductory blog post, or check out the code on github

Re: [Python-Dev] Gmane not functioning.

2014-04-03 Thread Terry Reedy
It is again now. -- Terry Jan Reedy ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 04/03/2014 11:49 AM, MRAB wrote: > On 2014-04-03 16:20, Eric V. Smith wrote: >> On 04/02/2014 04:08 PM, John Tyree wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both >>> 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? >>> >>> >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) >>> '2' >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 04/03/2014 11:37 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:20 -0400, "Eric V. Smith" > wrote: >> On 04/02/2014 04:08 PM, John Tyree wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both >>> 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? >>> >>> >>> "{:\x00<5}".

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread MRAB
On 2014-04-03 16:20, Eric V. Smith wrote: On 04/02/2014 04:08 PM, John Tyree wrote: Hi all, Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) '2' >>> "{:\x20<5}".format(2) '2' >>> "{:\x01<5}".fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:20 -0400, "Eric V. Smith" wrote: > On 04/02/2014 04:08 PM, John Tyree wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both > > 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? > > > > >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) > > '2' > > >>> > > "{:\

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 04/02/2014 04:08 PM, John Tyree wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both > 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? > > >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) > '2' > >>> > "{:\x20<5}".format(2) >

[Python-Dev] Incorrect behavior in str.format() method when padding with '\x00'

2014-04-03 Thread John Tyree
Hi all, Is there any particularly reason for the following behavior on both 2.7.6 and 3.4.0 ? >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) > '2' > >>> > "{:\x20<5}".format(2) > > '2' > >>> > "{:\x01<5}".format(2) > > '2\x01\x01\x01\x01' > >>> "{:\x00<5}".format(2) == > "{:\x20<5}".format(2) > > True > The

Re: [Python-Dev] libpython added to ABI tracker

2014-04-03 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Nick Coghlan wrote: On 3 April 2014 00:18, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Nick Coghlan wrote: Regarding the warnings for this one - is there a way for the checker to warn if data structures are exposed directly, rather than as opaque types? It's fine if there isn't, it would just be cool if there w

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2014 10:36 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > More seriously, I don't believe there should ever be a Py4k the way > there was a Py3k, and would prefer not to feed any rumours that there > might be. Amen! Tres. - -- =

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:59:55 -0400, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > I saw mention recently of Python 4 and assumed all such references > > were either April Fool's jokes or pie-in-the-sky dreams for a new > > version of Python which may never arr

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> Who the heck knows what the person specifically means, although it sounds >> like he did mean Python 3.4 which would explain why he know has a Python3 >> directory. > > Thanks. I'll

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > Who the heck knows what the person specifically means, although it sounds > like he did mean Python 3.4 which would explain why he know has a Python3 > directory. Thanks. I'll try and see what he really has. I was worried that an April Foo

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > I saw mention recently of Python 4 and assumed all such references > were either April Fool's jokes or pie-in-the-sky dreams for a new > version of Python which may never arrive. > It's the latter. Some of us have been tossing around "Pytho

[Python-Dev] Python 4?

2014-04-03 Thread Skip Montanaro
I saw mention recently of Python 4 and assumed all such references were either April Fool's jokes or pie-in-the-sky dreams for a new version of Python which may never arrive. Then I saw this message to webmaster. I would have guessed he meant 3.4 except he mentions having a Python3 (well, actually

Re: [Python-Dev] libpython added to ABI tracker

2014-04-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 April 2014 00:18, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > > Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> Regarding the warnings for this one - is there a way for the checker >> to warn if data structures are exposed directly, rather than as opaque >> types? It's fine if there isn't, it would just be cool if there was - >>