Re: [Python-Dev] WebM MIME type in mimetypes module

2014-12-02 Thread Yann Kaiser
Apologies if it has already been mentioned in the issue, but could the webm project be nudged towards officializing their mimetype? On Wed, Dec 3, 2014, 05:56 Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 02Dec2014 21:16, Terry Reedy wrote: > >On 12/2/2014 7:07 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: > >>To summarize the issue,

Re: [Python-Dev] WebM MIME type in mimetypes module

2014-12-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 02Dec2014 21:16, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2014 7:07 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: To summarize the issue, it proposes adding an entry for WebM ( http://www.webmproject.org/docs/container/#naming ) to the mimetypes standard library module's file-extension to MIME-type database. (Specifically: .we

Re: [Python-Dev] WebM MIME type in mimetypes module

2014-12-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/2/2014 7:07 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: Hi all, I'm seeking to move http://bugs.python.org/issue16329 towards conclusion. Since the discussion on the issue itself seems to have petered out, I thought I'd bring it up here. To summarize the issue, it proposes adding an entry for WebM ( http://w

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Dec 2014 08:47, "Donald Stufft" wrote: > > >> On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> Before anyone gets too excited about Rietveld (which I originally wrote as an APp Engine demo), AFAIK we're using a fork that only Martin von Loewis can maintain -- and it's a dead-end for

[Python-Dev] WebM MIME type in mimetypes module

2014-12-02 Thread Chris Rebert
Hi all, I'm seeking to move http://bugs.python.org/issue16329 towards conclusion. Since the discussion on the issue itself seems to have petered out, I thought I'd bring it up here. To summarize the issue, it proposes adding an entry for WebM ( http://www.webmproject.org/docs/container/#naming )

Re: [Python-Dev] advice needed: best approach to enabling "metamodules"?

2014-12-02 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 21:38:45 + > Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> object_set_class is responsible for checking whether it's okay to take >> an object of class "oldto" and convert it to an object of class >> "newto". Basically it's goal is jus

[Python-Dev] Python 2.x vs 3.x survey - new owner?

2014-12-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
Last year in late December, I did a brief, 9 question survey of 2.x vs 3.x usage. I like the think the results were interesting, but I don't have the spare cash to do it again this year. I probably shouldn't have done it last year. ^_^ Is anyone interested in taking over the survey? It's on Su

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Pierre-Yves David
On 12/02/2014 02:47 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Guido van Rossum mailto:gu...@python.org>> wrote: Before anyone gets too excited about Rietveld (which I originally wrote as an APp Engine demo), AFAIK we're using a fork that only Martin von Loewis can maintain -- and

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Before anyone gets too excited about Rietveld (which I originally wrote as an > APp Engine demo), AFAIK we're using a fork that only Martin von Loewis can > maintain -- and it's a dead-end fork because the Rietveld project itself only

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
Before anyone gets too excited about Rietveld (which I originally wrote as an APp Engine demo), AFAIK we're using a fork that only Martin von Loewis can maintain -- and it's a dead-end fork because the Rietveld project itself only supports App Engine, but Martin's fork runs on our own server infras

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > So I was waiting for Nick to say what he wanted to do for the peps repo > since I view it as I get 2/3 of the choices and he gets the other third. > > The way I view it, the options are: > > Move to GitHub > Move to Bitbucket > Improve our curr

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > P.S. I'll also bring up some of the RFEs raised in this discussion > around making it possible for folks to submit pull requests via > GitHub/BitBucket, even if the master repositories are hosted on PSF > infrastructure. In case it helps with

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 3:14:20 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 02, 2014, at 07:20 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > >No because only two people have said they like the experiment idea so > >that's not exactly enough to say it's worth the effort. =) Plus GitHub > >could be chosen in the end. > > Experime

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2014 08:50 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > So do people want PEPs or experimentation first? Experiments are good -- then we'll have real (if limited) data... which is better than no data. ;) -- ~Ethan~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Finney
Brett Cannon writes: > Well, if I'm going to be the Great Decider on this then I can say > upfront I'm taking a pragmatic view of preferring open but not > mandating it, preferring hg over git but not ruling out a switch, > preferring Python-based tools but not viewing it as a negative to not > u

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 02, 2014, at 07:20 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >No because only two people have said they like the experiment idea so >that's not exactly enough to say it's worth the effort. =) Plus GitHub >could be chosen in the end. Experimenting could be useful, although if the traffic is disproportionate

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2014 11:21 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > I should say I will take a few days to think about this and then I will start > a new thread outlining what I think we should be aiming for to help frame the > whole discussion and to give proponents something to target. Thanks for taking this on, Br

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
I should say I will take a few days to think about this and then I will start a new thread outlining what I think we should be aiming for to help frame the whole discussion and to give proponents something to target. On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 2:20:16 PM Brett Cannon wrote: > On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 2:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 2:15:09 PM Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:59:20 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> On Dec 02, 2014, at 06:21 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> >Well, if I'm going to be the Great Decider on this then I can say

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:59:20 PM Barry Warsaw > wrote: > On Dec 02, 2014, at 06:21 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > >Well, if I'm going to be the Great Decider on this then I can say upfront > >I'm taking a pragmat

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:59:20 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 02, 2014, at 06:21 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > >Well, if I'm going to be the Great Decider on this then I can say upfront > >I'm taking a pragmatic view of preferring open but not mandating it, > >preferring hg over git but not ruling

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:52:49 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:21:39 + > Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > So if we did have a discussion at the summit and someone decided to argue > > for FLOSS vs. not as a key factor then I would politely cut them off and > > say that doesn't ma

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 02, 2014, at 06:21 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >Well, if I'm going to be the Great Decider on this then I can say upfront >I'm taking a pragmatic view of preferring open but not mandating it, >preferring hg over git but not ruling out a switch, preferring Python-based >tools but not viewing it

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:21:39 + Brett Cannon wrote: > > So if we did have a discussion at the summit and someone decided to argue > for FLOSS vs. not as a key factor then I would politely cut them off and > say that doesn't matter to me and move on. As I said, I would moderate the > conversat

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:05:22 PM Guido van Rossum > wrote: > >> Thanks for taking charge, Brett. >> >> I personally think this shouldn't be brought up at the summit -- it's >> likely to just cause lots of heat about git vs. hg, free vs.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:05:22 PM Guido van Rossum wrote: > Thanks for taking charge, Brett. > > I personally think this shouldn't be brought up at the summit -- it's > likely to just cause lots of heat about git vs. hg, free vs. not-free, > "loyalty" to free or open tools, the weighing of core co

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks for taking charge, Brett. I personally think this shouldn't be brought up at the summit -- it's likely to just cause lots of heat about git vs. hg, free vs. not-free, "loyalty" to free or open tools, the weighing of core committers' preferences vs. outside contributors' preferences, GitHub'

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Demian Brecht
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: > I'd vote for experimentation, to ground the discussion in actual practice. +1. There may be a number of practical gotchas that very well might not surface in PEPs and should be documented and planned for. Likewise with benefits. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/02/2014 11:50 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > So do people want PEPs or experimentation first? I'd vote for experimentation, to ground the discussion in actual practice. Tres. - -- ===

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
So I was waiting for Nick to say what he wanted to do for the peps repo since I view it as I get 2/3 of the choices and he gets the other third. The way I view it, the options are: 1. Move to GitHub 2. Move to Bitbucket 3. Improve our current tooling (either through new hosting setup and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.4): - Issue #22966: Fix __pycache__ pyc file name clobber when pyc_compile is

2014-12-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 02, 2014, at 06:44 AM, Jeremy Kloth wrote: >This test is failing on the Windows buildbots due to the hard-coded >path separator. Using `os.pathsep` should work assuming that >importlib returns normalized paths. Good catch, thanks, however os.path would be the one to use. Here's the patch

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.4): - Issue #22966: Fix __pycache__ pyc file name clobber when pyc_compile is

2014-12-02 Thread Jeremy Kloth
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:17 PM, barry.warsaw wrote: > summary: > - Issue #22966: Fix __pycache__ pyc file name clobber when pyc_compile is > asked to compile a source file containing multiple dots in the source file > name. > > diff --git a/Lib/test/test_py_compile.py b/Lib/test/test_py_comp

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 2 December 2014 at 01:38, Guido van Rossum wrote: > As far as I'm concerned I'm just waiting for your decision now. The RhodeCode team got in touch with me offline to suggest the possibility of using RhodeCode Enterprise as a self-hosted solution rather than a volunteer-supported installation

Re: [Python-Dev] advice needed: best approach to enabling "metamodules"?

2014-12-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 21:38:45 + Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > object_set_class is responsible for checking whether it's okay to take > an object of class "oldto" and convert it to an object of class > "newto". Basically it's goal is just to avoid crashing the interpreter > (as would quickly happen