[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2014-12-05 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2014-11-28 - 2014-12-05) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open4666 ( -2) closed 30095 (+39) total 34761 (+37) Open issues

[Python-Dev] PEP 479 (Change StopIteration handling inside generators) -- hopefully final text

2014-12-05 Thread Guido van Rossum
For those who haven't followed along, here's the final text of PEP 479, with a brief Acceptance section added. The basic plan hasn't changed, but there's a lot more clarifying text and discussion of a few counter-proposals. Please send suggestions for editorial improvements to p...@python.org. The

[Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Brett Cannon
This is a bit long as I espoused as if this was a blog post to try and give background info on my thinking, etc. The TL;DR folks should start at the Ideal Scenario section and read to the end. P.S.: This is in Markdown and I have put it up at

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: words This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairly evaluate the various sides and the various concerns. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

[Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Brett Cannon
It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible: https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html Blog post about it at http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/commentary-on-getting-your-code-to-run-on-python-23 .

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible: https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html Are you going to update the 2.7 copy of the howto, too?

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Eric Snow
Very nice, Brett. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue tracker, the review tool, hg.python.org, and the email system that let's use

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible:

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org mailto:benja...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Dec 5, 2014 4:18 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, Brett. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 December 2014 at 06:24, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: words This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairly evaluate the various sides and the various concerns. Agreed - thanks for taking this on

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org mailto:benja...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Shorya Raj
Hi All I just want to put my two cents into this. This would definitely be a great step to take. I have been discussing PEP 462 with Nick, and the automation was definitely something that would be something that would be great to have - I mean, I was submitting a simple documentation patch for

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: We don't exactly have a ton of people constantly going I'm so bored because everything for Python's development infrastructure gets sorted

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:26 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: We don't exactly have a ton of people constantly going I'm so

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 December 2014 at 11:39, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Maybe our infrastructure folks will have a thought or two about this? I'm willing to put some work into this if we can figure out what direction to head in. It could well be tied in to moving bugs.python.org in with the rest

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 December 2014 at 10:44, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: Do we need to update it? Can it just redirect to the 3 version? Technically, yes, of course. However, that would unexpected take you out of the Python 2 docs context.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 479 (Change StopIteration handling inside generators) -- hopefully final text

2014-12-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 December 2014 at 04:42, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: For those who haven't followed along, here's the final text of PEP 479, with a brief Acceptance section added. The basic plan hasn't changed, but there's a lot more clarifying text and discussion of a few counter-proposals.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

2014-12-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 December 2014 at 14:40, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 December 2014 at 10:44, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: Do we need to update it? Can it just redirect to the 3 version? Technically, yes, of course.

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

2014-12-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/5/2014 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: 1. Contributor clones a repository from hg.python.org http://hg.python.org 2. Contributor makes desired changes 3. Contributor generates a patch 4. Contributor creates account on bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org and signs the [contributor