Re: [Python-Dev] New Windows installer for Python 3.5

2015-01-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 04.01.15 00:34, schrieb Steve Dower: > so I'm keen to hear whatever feedback people have. One issue that I always wanted to address is patch releases. There are two aspects I dislike about the current implementation a) an upgrade install first uninstalls the previous installation (removing al

Re: [Python-Dev] New Windows installer for Python 3.5

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Dower
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Am 04.01.15 00:34, schrieb Steve Dower: >> so I'm keen to hear whatever feedback people have. > > One issue that I always wanted to address is patch releases. There are two > aspects I dislike about the current implementation > > a) an upgrade install first uninstalls the

[Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the Developer Guide: https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer Visual Studio: http://bugs.python.org/issue22919#msg233637 I found PCbuild\readme.txt whi

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 13.01.2015 23:04, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the > Developer Guide: > https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling > > Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer Visual Studio: > http://bugs.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the > Developer Guide: > https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling > > Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer Visual Studio: > http:

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Zachary Ware
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the > Developer Guide: > https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling > > Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer Visual Studio: > http:

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Dower
Victor Stinner wrote: > To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the Developer > Guide: > https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling I'm sorry, I've been slack and haven't updated this guide with the new changes. That said, there aren't that many changes to

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Zachary Ware
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Zachary Ware wrote: > """ > Quick Start Guide > - > > 1. Install Microsoft Visual Studio 2015, any edition. Note that this isn't precisely true; any VS 2010 SP1 or newer *should* work, as you already know :). This just says 2015 because that's th

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 13/01/2015 22:04, Victor Stinner wrote: +* Type: PCbuild\win32\python_d.exe PCbuild\prepare_ssl.py externals\openssl-1.0.1j See also http://bugs.python.org/issue23212 "Update Windows and OS X installer copies of OpenSSL to 1.0.1k" -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2015-01-13 23:18 GMT+01:00 Steve Dower : > Technically, Python 3.5 requires Visual Studio 2015 For me, it's *very* difficult to find how to install Visual Studio. There are many different websites and web pages which mention Visual Studio with a lot of versions and "flavors" (Express, Community, U

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2015-01-13 23:18 GMT+01:00 Steve Dower : >> Technically, Python 3.5 requires Visual Studio 2015 > > For me, it's *very* difficult to find how to install Visual Studio. > There are many different websites and web pages which mention Visual >

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2015-01-13 23:42 GMT+01:00 Brian Curtin : > In the meantime, the first result searching for Visual Studio 2015 > came up with > http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/downloads/visual-studio-2015-downloads-vs.aspx, > which seems to give you VS2015. I haven't tried to run it since I'm > not on Windows a

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 13.01.2015 23:42, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Victor Stinner > wrote: >> 2015-01-13 23:18 GMT+01:00 Steve Dower : >>> Technically, Python 3.5 requires Visual Studio 2015 >> >> For me, it's *very* difficult to find how to install Visual Studio. >> There are many differ

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2015-01-13 23:46 GMT+01:00 M.-A. Lemburg : > Just a note of caution: for older preview releases of VS the > only way to get back to a clean system was to reinstall > Windows. Does it mean that it's not possible to have VS 2008 and VS 2015 installed at the same time? VS 2008 is required to build P

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Dower
Victor Stinner wrote: > 2015-01-13 23:18 GMT+01:00 Steve Dower : >> Technically, Python 3.5 requires Visual Studio 2015 > > For me, it's *very* difficult to find how to install Visual Studio. > There are many different websites and web pages which mention Visual Studio > with > a lot of versions

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2015-01-13 23:15 GMT+01:00 Zachary Ware : > The first line of the section you linked to is "The readme included in > the solution has more details, especially on what additional software > is required to build which parts of Python.", and 'readme' is a link > to the readme on h.p.o. :) Ok, I didn'

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Dower
Victor Stinner wrote: > 2015-01-13 23:46 GMT+01:00 M.-A. Lemburg : >> Just a note of caution: for older preview releases of VS the only way >> to get back to a clean system was to reinstall Windows. > > Does it mean that it's not possible to have VS 2008 and VS 2015 installed at > the same time?

[Python-Dev] C ABI and #ifndef Py_LIMITED_API

2015-01-13 Thread Ethan Furman
In the CPython source code I see #ifndef Py_LIMITED_API Is there a section in the docs that explains the purpose? If not, can someone give me the cliff notes version? Many thanks. -- ~Ethan~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __