Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 March 2017 at 06:22, Chris Barker wrote: > So the question nis -- is anyone counting on errors in this case? i.e., is > a sysadmin thinking: > > "I want an ASCII-only system, so I'll set the locale, and now I can expect > any program running on this system that is not ascii compatible to fa

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 March 2017 at 00:17, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 13 March 2017 at 23:31, Random832 wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017, at 04:37, INADA Naoki wrote: >> > But locale coercing works nice on platforms like android. >> > So how about simplified version of PEP 538? Just adding configure >> > option

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-14 Thread Chris Barker
There was a bunch of discussion about all this a while back, in which I think these points were addressed: However, in some cases the C locale is a normal environment for system > services, cron scripts, distro package builds and whatnot. > Indeed it is. But: if you run a Python (or any) program

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-14 Thread Random832
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017, at 10:17, Nick Coghlan wrote: > It's not that you *can't* run Python 3 in that kind of environment, and > it's not that there are never any valid reasons to do so. It's that lots > of > things that you'd typically expect to work are going to misbehave (one I > discovered mysel

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.7.13

2017-03-14 Thread Raúl Cumplido
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.7.13

2017-03-14 Thread Oleg Broytman
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[Python-Dev] Python 2.7.13

2017-03-14 Thread jorge . conrado
Hi, I dowloaded the Python 2.7.13 and install it as root . it installed in my directory: /usr/src/Python-2.7.13 Then I typed: python and I had: Python 2.7.13 (default, Mar 14 2017, 09:30:46) [GCC 4.9.2 20150212 (Red Hat 4.9.2-6)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license"

Re: [Python-Dev] Regarding writing tests for module tabnanny

2017-03-14 Thread Jaysinh Shukla
On Monday 13 March 2017 10:11 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: These questions are best asked on the core-mentorship mailing list, Jaysinh, but to quickly answer your question: Thanks Brett for replaying. I will take care of this next time. ___ Python-Dev mail

[Python-Dev] A big THANK YOU to the maintainers of What's New

2017-03-14 Thread Chris Angelico
A bit of a thankless job, updating What's New for a bugfix release, but can be so important. Today I was trying to figure out why a Python script behaved differently on my dev system and my server, even when I used Python 3.4 on both ends - but it was 3.4.4 on one and 3.4.2 on the other. My first p

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 13 March 2017 at 23:31, Random832 wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017, at 04:37, INADA Naoki wrote: > > But locale coercing works nice on platforms like android. > > So how about simplified version of PEP 538? Just adding configure > > option for locale coercing > > which is disabled by default. N