Re: [Python-Dev] Official citation for Python

2018-09-12 Thread Wes Turner
There was a thread about adding __cite__ to things and a tool to collect those citations awhile back. "[Python-ideas] Add a __cite__ method for scientific packages" http://markmail.org/thread/rekmbmh64qxwcind Which CPython source file should contain this __cite__ value? ... On a related note,

Re: [Python-Dev] Official citation for Python

2018-09-12 Thread Wes Turner
Do you guys think we should all cite Grub and BusyBox and bash and libc and setuptools and pip and openssl and GNU/Linux and LXC and Docker; or else it's plagiarism for us all? #OpenAccess On Wednesday, September 12, 2018, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: >

Re: [Python-Dev] Official citation for Python

2018-09-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Chris Barker via Python-Dev writes: > But "I wrote some code in Python to produce these statistics" -- > does that need a citation? That depends on what you mean by "statistics" and whether (as one should) one makes the code available. If the code is published or "available on request",

Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-34595: How to format a type name?

2018-09-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, For the type name, sometimes, we only get a type (not an instance), and we want to format its FQN. IMHO we need to provide ways to format the FQN of a type for *types* and for *instances*. Here is my proposal: * Add !t conversion to format string * Add ":T" format to type.__format__() * Add

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 579 and PEP 580: refactoring C functions and methods

2018-09-12 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 06/20/18 01:53, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Hello, Let me present PEP 579 and PEP 580. PEP 579 is an informational meta-PEP, listing some of the issues with functions/methods implemented in C. The idea is to create several PEPs each fix some part of the issues mentioned in PEP 579. PEP 580 is

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Oh yes, one issue of missing bpo-xxx is that bots don't report merged commits into the bpo. I like using the bpo issue to track backports: https://bugs.python.org/issue31902 It was just a general remark, it's fine for these commits. Someone can add them manually to the bpo if you want. Victor

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi Benjamin, https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d13e59c1b512069d90efe7ee9b613d3913e79c56 Le mer. 12 sept. 2018 à 17:19, Benjamin Peterson a écrit : > (Just checking) Is there something wrong with this message besides the <-- > comment? Since the commit is described as a follow-up of

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 01:33, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > 12.09.18 01:34, Miss Islington (bot) пише: > > https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d13e59c1b512069d90efe7ee9b613d3913e79c56 > > commit: d13e59c1b512069d90efe7ee9b613d3913e79c56 > > branch: master > > author: Benjamin Peterson > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
Thanks Zach for fixing it quickly. Even if that bug has been fixed, per my instructions to python-committers, core devs should still edit the PR title and PR description *before* adding the '烙 automerge' label. The YouTube video (link in python-committers email) shows to edit those. The PR

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Zachary Ware
It is still up to the core dev to set the message properly, but the HTML comments are invisible on GitHub until you edit the message. That bug is now fixed, though; HTML comments are stripped from the message before creating the commit. -- Zach (Top-posted in HTML from a phone) On Wed, Sep 12,

[Python-Dev] Stop automerging

2018-09-12 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
12.09.18 01:34, Miss Islington (bot) пише: https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d13e59c1b512069d90efe7ee9b613d3913e79c56 commit: d13e59c1b512069d90efe7ee9b613d3913e79c56 branch: master author: Benjamin Peterson committer: Miss Islington (bot)

Re: [Python-Dev] Official citation for Python

2018-09-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:35:04PM +0200, Chris Barker wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > > I think this thread is about *academic* citations. > > yes, I assumed that as well, what in any of my posts made you think > otherwise? When you started talking about