Hello, I'm afraid you misundertood my message. I'm not discussing the choice of Discourse as a communication medium (which would be futile after the decision has been made), just the thematic perimeter that would make up an equivalent of Python-dev (for those hundreds of us who happened to like it).
Le 22/09/2022 à 19:58, Brett Cannon a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 12:41 AM Baptiste Carvello > <devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net > <mailto:devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net>> wrote: > Le 21/09/2022 à 13:14, Petr Viktorin a écrit : > > But I don't think the goal is to make sure all people using the mailing > > list get the same set of posts. Different people have different > interests. > That's exaggerated: often many people share common interests, and thus > want to follow a common set of discussions. > ... which is expected to take place on Discourse. > [...] "Discourse", without further qualification, is a discussion medium, not a discussion forum as I mean it ("a group of people sharing common interests…"). The Python discourse instance is the equivalent of Python-list + Python-dev + Ideas + Typing + Packaging + whatever else. Nobody is expected to read all of that, are they? Thus it makes sense to be interested in a sensible subset of it. > This is what makes up a > discussion forum. Python-dev has served well its hundreds (or is it > thousands) of users over all those years, so its perimeter must be > sensible enough. > But the mailing list has also not served others well either > [...], so I don't think it "must be sensible enough" that > what python-dev does is always best/right/sensible. > [...] My words "sensible enough" only qualified the *thematic perimeter* of Python-dev: design discussions including PEPs, relation to other important projects in the community, sometimes general programming philosophy. This perimeter is a product of experience. There's a reason Python-dev was split from Python-list, then Ideas from Python-dev etc. Let history inform us. In conclusion, the only thing I'm looking for is a fully working way to access this information perimeter from a convenient mail-like interface. Various solutions have been handwaved, but none is ready for prime time. > In the meantime, I suppose Discourse must have some instance > configuration knobs, and it would make sense that the length of the RSS > files can be changed there (being a very arbitrary limit). The PSF could > then choose a more appropriate length just for their own instance (the > current 25-post limit represents less than 24 hours; a few days instead > would be nice). > > > If you can find the setting then we can look at tweaking it, but a quick > glance at the admin interface didn't turn up anything obvious. Sorry to say, but this is yet another sign that Discourse is not mature enough for a community as big as Python. This set-in-stone limit is obviously devised for a very small community. Cheers, Baptiste _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/HHR6APCBEWQRPRDMF2JQGW6PCGEK7OWQ/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
