On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:55:13AM +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:59:15 +0200
Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it *really* a security issue? We knew all along that dicts are
O(n^2) in worst case scenario, how is this suddenly a security
problem?
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Andrew Bennetts writes:
No, that just means you shouldn't trust *root*. Which is where a
VM is a very useful tool. You can have the “as root” environment
for your tests without the need to have anything important trust it.
Cameron acknowledges that he
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 08:27:01AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
[…]
| running buildbot tests as root does not reflect the experience of
| non-root users. It seems some tests need to be run both ways just for
| correctness testing.
|
| (except I'd say all, not some)
No. Terry is right
Ethan Furman wrote:
[…] or EINTRError in my order of preference.
Please not that last one! ;)
Why not, exactly?
When EINTR happens it's frequently a surprise, but programmers new to
the concept can always search the web for advice on what causes it and
how to deal with it (and after
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
Ubuntu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
(http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle seems to be down)
I'd prefer something more official than Wikipedia, though.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
-Andrew.
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
Any proposal appreciated.
I propose screaming “help me, I have written a test suite using nothing
but string matching assertions, what is wrong with me?!”
-Andrew.
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Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
But a hypothetical 2.8 would also give people a way to move closer to
py3k without giving up on using all their 2.x-only dependencies.
How so? If they use anything that is new in 2.8, they *will* need to
drop support for anything before it, no???
I think
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
I've done a fair bit of 3.x porting, and I'm firmly convinced that
2.x can do nothing:
[...]
Inherently, 2.8 can't improve on that.
I agree that there are limitations like the ones you've listed, but I
disagree with your conclusion. Maybe you assume that it's just
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Robert Kern robert.kern at gmail.com writes:
Since one may have more than one filesystem side-by-side, this can't be just
be
a system-wide boolean somewhere. One would have to query the target
directory
for this information. I am not aware of the existence of
R. David Murray wrote:
I just posted a (tiny) patch to the tracker, and for the
exercise of it I thought I would push the branch out to Launchpad
as suggested in the wiki (http://wiki.python.org/moin/Bazaar).
It looks like it is uploading every file in the branch instead
of the delta from the
Ross Light wrote:
Yes, this is the expected behavior. Bazaar will upload all of the
revisions since it is not stacking off of another branch. You could
try using the Launchpad or Python.org mirrors as a stacking branch, as
described here:
Ross Light wrote:
[...]
However, my understanding is that Launchpad will not automatically
stack if you are using the Python.org branch; you must use the
Launchpad mirror. If you want to stack off the Python.org branch,
then I think you need to manually stack.
It is true that if the source
Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
Is there a reason why the operator module doesn't have an operator.call
function?
Python 2.6 adds operator.methodcaller. So you could use
operator.methodcaller('__call__'), but that's not really any better than
lambda x: x().
A patch to add operator.caller(*args,
Mike Klaas wrote:
On 29-Jan-09, at 3:21 PM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote:
[...]
The meaning which numpy attributes to Ellipsis is also the meaning
that mathematical notation has attached to Ellipsis for a very long
time.
And yet, python isn't confined to mathematical notation. *, ** are both
Daniel Stutzbach wrote:
[...]
If you really need to communicate with multiple subprocesses (which so far has
not been suggested as a motivating example), then you can use select().
Not portably. select() on windows only works on sockets.
-Andrew.
Barry Warsaw wrote:
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On Jan 3, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
1. I think that a patch can not e.g. capture a moved, renamed or
deleted file.
Further, it can not handle e.g. things like the executable bit or
similar
things that
s...@pobox.com wrote:
Steve Unfortunately there are doubtless programs out there that do rely
Steve on actions being taken at shutdown.
Indeed. I believe any code which calls atexit.register.
Steve Maybe os.exit() could be more widely advertised, though ...
That would be
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
There is a certain prevention already that later maintenance fixes don't
break the earlier ones: those fixes typically get checked into the trunk
also, where the tests do exist. So the committer would find out even
before the patch gets to the maintenance branch.
Nick Coghlan wrote:
[...]
What did you think of the check idea at the end of the email?
Test assertions:
check(x).almost_equal(y)
check(x).is_(y)
check(x).in_(y)
check(x).equals(y)
Test negative assertions:
check(x).not_almost_equal(y)
check(x).is_not(y)
Michael Foord wrote:
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[...]
If some people want to proceed down the path of useful additions,
I challenge them to think bigger. Give me some test methods that
improve my life. Don't give me thirty ways to spell something I can
already do.
I assert that... the
Ben Finney wrote:
Andrew Bennetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This one is easily solved by making assertRaises return the
exception it caught.
That breaks one simple feature of the unittest API: that all the test
methods will either raise a failure asertion, or return None.
How
Ben Finney wrote:
Andrew Bennetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
How is returning None a feature?
A test method having exactly one meaning is a feature. If it's
consistent across the API, the API retains a level of simplicity.
Your reply makes no sense to me.
I am proposing
Ben Finney wrote:
[...]
I hope that clarifies it. The name of a thing, in Python especially,
is very important; in an API, even more so. If the behaviour of the
function isn't matched by the name, it's a poorly chosen name, a
poorly designed function, or both.
It doesn't really clarify it
Ben Finney wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Finney writes:
Removal of ``assert*`` names
There is no overwhelming consensus on whether to remove the
``assert*`` names or the ``fail*`` names;
7 to 1 is
Ben Finney wrote:
Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
I like using only the assertKeyword variants, removing assert_, fail*,
and assertEquals.
I'm the opposite. I prefer the 'fail*' variants over the 'assert*'
variants, because fail tells me exactly what the function will
Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Andrew Bennetts
[...]
Should I file a bug for this?
If you want, but Benjamin plans to undocument this for users along
with all other test.support stuff (which I agree with). Most of the
APIs in test.support were just quickly written
Nick Coghlan wrote:
[...]
I forgot this had already been added to the Python regression test
machinery, so it will just be a matter of updating the relevant tests to
use it:
That's a nice surprise! I'm glad the standard library is growing facilities
like this.
I think it could be
Neal Becker wrote:
Christian Heimes wrote:
I've attached the first public draft of my first PEP. A working patch
against the py3k branch is available at http://bugs.python.org/issue1576
Christian
Note also that mercurial has demandimport
http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/
And
Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 4:54 PM, Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Op vrijdag 07-12-2007 om 07:26 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Sean
Reifschneider:
I would say that this is an optimization that helps a specific set of
platforms, including one that I think we really
Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
IMHO this shouldn't segfault:
import thread
while 1:
f = open(/tmp/dupa, w)
thread.start_new_thread(f.close, ())
f.close()
while it does on cpython 2.5.1 , linux box.
May I consider this a bug?
Yes, that's a bug. Please file it at
Georg Brandl wrote:
Sure, you could use ``iter(())`` or ``iter([])``, but for consistency's sake
wouldn't it make sense for ``iter()`` to return an empty iterator, as
``str()``
returns an empty string etc.?
I had no idea that str() or int() would do that. file() certainly
doesn't! :)
I
Raghuram Devarakonda wrote:
Hi,
I have submitted a patch (http://www.python.org/sf/1704547) that
allows os.rename to replace the destination file if it exists, on
windows. As part of discussion in the tracker, Martin suggested that
python-dev should discuss the change.
Does
Lino Mastrodomenico wrote:
Hello everyone,
I would like to participate as a student in google Summer of Code and
I'm interested in feedback on a multimedia library for Python.
The library I propose should have the following features:
* the capability to extract and decompress video
Hi Martin,
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[...]
The use-cases being discussed here would be better served by having new
APIs that do particular things and don't change existing semantics,
though. For example, a guess_mime_type(path) function which could
examine a
Josiah Carlson wrote:
[...]
Offer a new splitext that uses X on posix and Y on win32, but causes a
DeprecationWarning with pointers to the two renamed functions that are
available on both platforms.
For people who want the old platform-specific functionality in previous
and subsequent
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:42:42AM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
Op donderdag 30-11-2006 om 21:48 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Steve
Holden:
I think the point is that some distros (Debian is the one that springs
to mind most readily, but I'm not a distro archivist) require a separate
install
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 11:52:48PM -0700, Josiah Carlson wrote:
Andrew Bennetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Have you seen the demandload hack that Mercurial uses? You can find it
here:
http://selenic.com/repo/hg?f=cb4715847a81;file=mercurial/demandload.py
You can see
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 03:38:04PM -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote:
In an effort to reduce the memory usage used by GTK+ applications
written in python I've recently added a feature that allows attributes
to be lazy loaded in a module namespace. The gtk python module contains
quite a few
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:33:49PM +0200, Alexander Schremmer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:00:09 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
Op di, 13-06-2006 te 10:27 +0200, schreef Alexander Schremmer:
Bazaar-NG seems to reach limits already when working on
it's own code/repository.
Canonical uses
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 02:48:47PM -0400, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 07:56 PM 4/9/2006 +0200, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
-1. These aren't external libraries; they are part of Python.
They *were* external libraries. Also, many OS vendors nonetheless split
the standard library into different
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
So for multiplying this by 8, I would have to create 48 lines of
Apache configuration, and use 24 TCP ports. This can be done, but
it would take some time to implement. And who is going to look
at the 24 pages?
This last point is the
Donovan Baarda wrote:
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 02:33 -0500, Steve Holden wrote:
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Tim Peters wrote:
[...]
What is the reason that people want to use threads when they can have
poll/select-style message processing? Why does Zope require threads?
IOW, why would
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:23:29AM -0500, Jason Orendorff wrote:
It seems dumb to support *parsing* integers in weird bases, but not
*formatting* them in weird bases. Not a big deal, but if you're going
to give me a toy, at least give me the whole toy!
The %b idea is a little disappointing
Guido van Rossum wrote:
[...]
I'd propose bin() to stay in line with the short abbreviated names.
[...]
The binary type should have a 0b prefix.
It seems odd to me to add both a builtin *and* new syntax for something that's
occasionally handy, but only occasionally. If we're going to
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 07:44:44PM -0800, Alex Martelli wrote:
Is it finally time in Python 2.5 to allow the obvious use of, say,
str(5,2) to give '101',
My reaction having read this far was huh?. It took some time (several
seconds) before it occurred to me what you wanted str(5,2) to mean,
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 11:54:05PM -0500, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[...]
That suggests that it would be better to simply add an int method:
x.convert_to_base(7)
This seems clear and simple to me. I like it. I strongly suspect the bright
beginners Alex is interested in would have no
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:28:10PM -0800, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Jan 16, 2006, at 9:12 PM, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
[...]
x.convert_to_base(7)
This seems clear and simple to me. I like it. I strongly suspect
the bright
beginners Alex is interested in would have no trouble using
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:19:08AM +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
My initial thought was that we could ask alpha testers to run this script on
their alpha builds, and report back, but it just struck me that the
buildbot
already builds stuff on a couple of interesting
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:15:56AM +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[...]
I know I could limit the Twisted webserver to localhost using
firewalling/iptables (and I will need to if there is no other
option); just having it generate static pages would have been
more convenient.
For this part at
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:32:31PM +, Michael Hoffman wrote:
[Hye-Shik Chang]
I think contrib is somewhat conventional for the purpose.
[Steve Holden]
Indeed, but conventionally *all* code in the Python core is contributed,
and I think we need a name that differentiates
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:20:08PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
Is anyone truly attached to nested tuple function parameters; ``def
fxn((a,b)): print a,b``? At one of the PyCon sprints Guido seemed
okay with just having them removed when Jeremy asked about ditching
them thanks to the pain they
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