On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
> I think this hits the nail on the head. Rather than network engineers
> having a less precise understanding of IP, what we have is two different
> sets of domain requirements. Network engineers deal with networks, with
> IPs being a nece
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
> ipaddr could be changed to yield IPv4 /32 or IPv6 /128 objects when
> iterating over it instead of strings and this example would work
> properly.
I have opened an issue in the ipaddr bug tracker that I think
addresses this issue. There
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
> Having thought more about this, I will agree with you that it would
> be useful to have an address-without-netmask class.
Not only useful, but necessary. It seems there are few people on this
list who understand IP well enough to realize h
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:08 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> That doesn't solve much. IPv4 objects still always use CIDR notation
>> when coerced to strings, meaning that IP addresses will always be
>> rendered with a trailing "/32".
>
> That's not true:
>
> py> x = ipaddr.IP("30.40.50.60")
> py>
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:15 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> We could remove it, but then what we have wouldn't really be a release
> candidate anymore, so the release would get delayed.
How long do release candidates soak in the field before being accepted?
I'm curious if an exception could be m
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
> ip[0]
>>
>> '10.33.11.17'
>
> Actually I find that very intuitive if I understand that the objects
> are always networks.
I suspect the authors would disagree with you on this point, since
they insist that host routes and host addresse
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:47 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> If this were a core feature that many developers were anxiously
>> awaiting, I could understand the desire to release and iterate. But is
>> there really a pressing need for an IP library in the stdlib?
>
> You should have asked this que
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> For the net-vs-host issue, I think a backwards-compatible solution
> is possible: just give the IP() function an option parameter that
> makes it reject a netmask during parsing.
That doesn't solve much. IPv4 objects still always use CID
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I haven't read the bug, but given the extensive real-life use that
> ipaddr.py has seen at Google before inclusion into the stdlib, I think
> "deep conceptual flaws" must be an overstatement.
When the users of the library are also the au
