On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > Le Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:51:02 +0000, > Michael Foord <fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk> a écrit : >> >> In other news, class and module fixtures (setUpClass / >> tearDownClass / setUpModule / tearDownModule) are now implemented in >> unittest (in trunk >> - not yet merged to py3k). These features are tested but I'm sure >> there are some lurking bugs or oddities, so please try them out. I >> have not yet added documentation for them; I'll pull it out from this >> email as a starting point. >> >> I'd rather this thread didn't become *another* debate on the merit of >> these features, but perhaps that is too much to hope for. > > Just for the record, could you sum up the reasons why you/we decided on > this route rather than e.g. adding a test-resources-like facility? > > (I'm not saying I disagree, it's just that I didn't remember a decision > had already been made on this point) > > Thanks for all your work on this! > > cheers > > Antoine. > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/markroddy%40gmail.com >
There were some lengthy threads on python-ideas (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2010-January/006736.html) and python-dev (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-February/097521.html). I'm sure Michael has a set of factors that are most important to him for the decision (which I don't blame him for not wanting to get into, the two previous threads were contentious), but for me personally I don't view class/module setup and test-resources as necessarily competing options. For the simplest use case ( create some expensive connection and/or object which is essentially stateless and won't need to be torn down), I personally find a test-resources solution to require an unnecessary amount of work to implement. After exploring it a bit in the course of those discussions I hope that test-resources (or something similar, maybe something like junit rules which was also brought up) makes it into the stdlib at some point as some of the more complicated integration/scenario tests I support would be made much simpler with such functionality. -Mark _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
