Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:30, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Therefore I still propose shipping bootstrap package that instruct > user how to download and install an actual package  management tool > when users tries to use it. So far I know only one stable tool - > `easy_install` - a part of `setupt

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread anatoly techtonik
2010/3/29 Lennart Regebro : > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:30, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> Therefore I still propose shipping bootstrap package that instruct >> user how to download and install an actual package  management tool >> when users tries to use it. So far I know only one stable tool - >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2010/3/29 anatoly techtonik : > 2010/3/29 Lennart Regebro : >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:30, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> Therefore I still propose shipping bootstrap package that instruct >>> user how to download and install an actual package  management tool >>> when users tries to use it. So f

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:02, anatoly techtonik wrote: > distutils is not a `package management` tool, because it doesn't know > anything even about installed packages With that definition, there are no packaga management tools for Python. So it's going to be pretty hard to ship one with 2.7. >

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:45 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> [..] >>> distutils is not a `package management` tool, because it doesn't know >>> anything even about installed packages, not saying anything about >>> dependencies. >> >> At this

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
2010/3/29 anatoly techtonik : > Ok. How about shipping bootstrap script only for `easy_install` tool for now? Since there are many who are of the opinion that easy_install isn't very good, and pip should be used instead, that would be a bad idea. Just drop it. 2.7 will not have a package managem

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: At least one package management tool for 2.7)

2010-03-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
anatoly techtonik wrote: > So, there won't be any package management tool shipped with Python 2.7 > and users will have to download and install `setuptools` manually as > before: [...] > So, do we need a PEP for that? How else can I know if consensus is > reached? Anybody is willing to elaborate on