Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > 3781 warnings.catch_warnings fails gracelessly when recording warnings I just assigned this one to myself - I'll have a patch up for review shortly (the patch will revert back to having this be a regression test suite only feature). Cheers, Nick. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 >> beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer >> to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean >> u

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread skip
Barry> 3777 long(4.2) now returns an int Looks like Amaury has already taken care of this one. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/opt

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:22 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Even if I can't contribute very much at the moment, I'm still +1 to that. I doubt Python would get nice publicity if we released a 3.0 but had to tell everyone, "but don't really use it yet, it may

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: [Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't al

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issu

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Perhaps it's time to separate the 2.6 and 3.0 release schedules? I don't care if the next version of OSX contains 3.0 or not -- but I do care about it having 2.6. I've talked with my contact at M

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Jesse Noller
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:13 PM, "Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Raymond> With the extra time, it would be worthwhile to add dbm.sqlite > Raymond> to 3.0 to compensate for the loss of bsddb so that shelves > Raymond> won't become useless on Windows builds. > > My vote is to separate 2.6 and 3.0 then come back together for

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Sure, we lose the ability to add last-minute -3 warnings. But I think > that's a pretty minor issue (and those warnings have a tendency to > subtly break things occasionally, so we shouldn't do them last-minute > anyway). Hey, if we catch all the things that need -3 warni

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Georg Brandl
Guido van Rossum schrieb: >>> Perhaps it's time to separate the 2.6 and 3.0 release schedules? I >>> don't care if the next version of OSX contains 3.0 or not -- but I do >>> care about it having 2.6. >> >> I'm not really sure what good that would do us unless we wanted to >> bring 3.0 back to the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread skip
Raymond> With the extra time, it would be worthwhile to add dbm.sqlite Raymond> to 3.0 to compensate for the loss of bsddb so that shelves Raymond> won't become useless on Windows builds. My vote is to separate 2.6 and 3.0 then come back together for 2.7 and 3.1. I'm a bit less sure a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Guido van Rossum] >> >> Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 >> beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer >> to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on schedule

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Antoine Pitrou writes: > It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the > development process is synchronized between trunk and py3k, that there is no > loss of developer focus, and that merges/backports happen quite naturally. As usual, in theory precision is infinit

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Heimes cheimes.de> writes: >> >> Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and >> 3.0 on the same day. "Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released" makes a great >> headline. > > It's not only the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Christian Heimes cheimes.de> writes: > > Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and > 3.0 on the same day. "Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released" makes a great > headline. It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the development process is sy

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on sche

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1s

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We >> have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We d

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We > have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not have > a beta3 Windows installer and I don't have high hopes for rectifying