Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong gokoproj...@gmail.com wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. Not specifically for 2.7 and 3.3, no. This is a fairly complete list:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/04/2014 08:20 PM, John Yeuk Hon Wong wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. Here's another reference:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong gokoproj...@gmail.com wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. Not

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:23:45 -0600 Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong gokoproj...@gmail.com wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Scott Dial
On 2014-01-02 17:54, Dan Stromberg wrote: I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey It would've been nice to see some crosstabs. Pretty much any question after Q3 is incomprehensible without splitting the respondents into sub-groups first. Of the 2.49% of people who said

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Luca Sbardella
On 4 January 2014 19:21, Scott Dial scott+python-...@scottdial.com wrote: On 2014-01-02 17:54, Dan Stromberg wrote: I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey It would've been nice to see some crosstabs. Pretty much any question after Q3 is incomprehensible without splitting

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Luca Sbardella luca.sbarde...@gmail.com writes: you are my heroes but this survey is quite useless, can you include more people? The survey cohort was self-selected from those who read the forums where it was posted. I wasn't aware of it so many thousands of python users. That statement

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread John Yeuk Hon Wong
On 1/4/14 10:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Luca Sbardella luca.sbarde...@gmail.com writes: you are my heroes but this survey is quite useless, can you include more people? The survey cohort was self-selected from those who read the forums where it was posted. I wasn't aware of it so many

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:20 PM, John Yeuk Hon Wong gokoproj...@gmail.com wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. There are PEPs and books, but is there any such long list of references? If not,

[Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
Is there a better place to put this than: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ Thanks. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a better place to put this than: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ Thank you for doing this! If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for publishing the

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a better place to put this than: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ Thank you for doing this! My

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for publishing the results. Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and plots as SVG images)? That would be IMO more suitable for uploading. -- \“Good

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Gregory P. Smith
Somewhere you need to describe the survey methodology, who was surveyed, how were they selected, etc. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 Dan

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for publishing the results. Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and plots as SVG

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that Pythonistas hang out. Does this look better? https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey Thanks. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Gregory P. Smith

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that Pythonistas hang out. Specifically, your methodology was to post the link to python-list

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Janzert
On 1/2/2014 10:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that Pythonistas hang out. Specifically, your