Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-20 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Phillip J. Eby wrote: >> Why should a 3rd party extension be hot-fixing the standard >> Python distribution ? > Because setuptools installs things in zip files, and older versions of > pydoc don't work for packages zip files. That doesn't answer my question. >>> That is the ans

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:08 PM 4/19/2006 -0500, Michael Urman wrote: >On 4/19/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People blame setuptools when pydoc doesn't work on packages in zip > > files. Rather than refer to some theoretical argument why it's not my > > fault and I shouldn't be the one to fix it,

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-19 Thread Michael Urman
On 4/19/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People blame setuptools when pydoc doesn't work on packages in zip > files. Rather than refer to some theoretical argument why it's not my > fault and I shouldn't be the one to fix it, I prefer to fix the problem. So rather than extract the

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-19 Thread James Y Knight
On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 08:45 PM 4/19/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>> At 09:02 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 07:15 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Why should a 3rd party ex

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 08:45 PM 4/19/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: > > At 09:02 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Phillip J. Eby wrote: > >>> At 07:15 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Why should a 3rd party extension be hot-fixing the standard > Python distribu

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd party extensions hot-fixing the stdlib (setuptools in the stdlib)

2006-04-19 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
[removing the python-checkins CC] Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 09:02 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>> At 07:15 PM 4/18/2006 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Why should a 3rd party extension be hot-fixing the standard Python distribution ? >>> Because setupto