Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 18:13, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. That's

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 03:13, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 08:58, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: Looking at their pricing model, we don't need permission; public repos can have unlimited contributors. Plus bitbucket supports CNAMEs so we would also be able to still have hg.python.org for accessing the repos. The trick

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:03:29 +0200 Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: Anyway, I don't think using Bitbucket buys us much. It could be nice to keep a mirror there for redundancy and because it might make contributing slightly easier for non-committers, but it won't allow doing all

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Ben Finney
Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl writes: Still, I think the flexibility of self-hosting (in terms of hooks and extension -- for example the one that would allow lookup by SVN rev) should win out here. Not only the flexibility, but the autonomy. Hosting the source code on systems either paid

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 29.09.2010 09:03, schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 03:13, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:35, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote: Can't we rewrite the history when converting from svn to hg to use real names instead of logins? I've been doing that since the start, look at the test repo on hg.p.o. Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Xavier Morel
On 2010-09-29, at 11:50 , Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:03:29 +0200 Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: Anyway, I don't think using Bitbucket buys us much. It could be nice to keep a mirror there for redundancy and because it might make contributing slightly easier for

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread exarkun
On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I'm wondering if they'd be similarly

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/29/2010 6:32 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl writes: Still, I think the flexibility of self-hosting (in terms of hooks and extension -- for example the one that would allow lookup by SVN rev) should win out here. Not only the flexibility, but the autonomy.

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2010, at 09:13 PM, Steve Holden wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I was an advocate for JIRA at

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 16:43, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: Do we expect Mercurial to require more, less, or about the same amount of babysitting as the current Subversion repository?  I would think no more and Subversion hasn't been much of a problem. Yeah, should be about the same.

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Xavier Morel
On 2010-09-29, at 15:26 , Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Do we expect Mercurial to require more, less, or about the same amount of babysitting as the current Subversion repository? The ongoing effort is to manage write access; this is not going to change with Mercurial. With a hosted service, you still need someone who gives write permissions to

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.dewrote: Of course, with a hosted service, you often can't run hooks at all, so the effort to write them is also reduced :-) It should be easy to write an automated script that pulls the latest changes from the hosted service

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Stutzbach dan...@stutzbachenterprises.com wrote: Obviously, it would not be possible to write hooks that reject changesets Of course, this is one of the more interesting ways to use hooks. Since there's no current expectation that running our own will be

[Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I'm wondering if they'd be similarly interested in supporting our Hg server. Or