Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-06 Thread Éric Araujo
Le 06/02/2013 05:03, Chris Jerdonek a écrit : > I asked this earlier, but didn't see a response. Is the freeze > stated somewhere like in a PEP? It’s part in notes from the PyCon 2010 Language Summit, part in unwritten policy in the heads of people involved in distutils bugs these last years. >

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: >> Le 03/02/2013 07:48, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : >>> I vote for removing the "distutils is frozen" principle. >> I’ve also been thinking about that. There have been two exceptions to >> t

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 03.02.2013 19:33, Éric Araujo wrote: >> I vote for removing the "distutils is frozen" principle. > I’ve also been thinking about that. There have been two exceptions to > the freeze, for ABI flags in extension module names and for pycache > directories. When the stable ABI was added and MvL wa

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-03 Thread Daniel Holth
I did think that updating distutils to have basic support for the packaging PEPs was a decent idea, but then it wound up being more or less rewritten entirely like I've been cajoled into doing with PEP 426 (Metadata). I don't know whether distutils(1) can survive the minimum changes required for wh

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-03 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Le 03/02/2013 07:48, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : >> I vote for removing the "distutils is frozen" principle. > I’ve also been thinking about that. There have been two exceptions to > the freeze, for ABI flags in extension module names and for pyc

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 + distutils freeze

2013-02-03 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi, I don’t have a problem with Nick improving the PEP and deciding on its acceptance. Le 03/02/2013 07:48, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : > On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:34:36 + > Paul Moore wrote: >> So it's perfectly possible to use wheels right now, without the pip >> integration. But the pip develope