Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-22 Thread Pekka Klärck
[Replying to a mail that was sent before I joined this list. Quoting, headers, etc. aren't exactly right.] Nick Coghlan wrote: On 4 October 2014 10:51, Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io wrote: Whoops, I misred. So to be clear, you think: install - pip, pip2, pip2.7 altinstall - pip2.7 To

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Pekka Klärck p...@iki.fi wrote: [Replying to a mail that was sent before I joined this list. Quoting, headers, etc. aren't exactly right.] Nick Coghlan wrote: On 4 October 2014 10:51, Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io wrote: Whoops, I misred. So to be clear,

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 22 October 2014 21:10, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Pekka Klärck p...@iki.fi wrote: I just installed Python 3.4.2 on Windows and noticed that its Scripts directory has these files out-of-the-box: easy_install.exe easy_install-3.4.exe.

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 October 2014 10:51, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Whoops, I misred. So to be clear, you think: install - pip, pip2, pip2.7 altinstall - pip2.7 To spell out the assumption I didn't make clear when helping with the backport PEP, the difference comes from PEP 394, which specifies

[Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Donald Stufft
I'm working on the backport of ensurepip to Python 2.7, and I realized that I'm not sure which commands to install. Right now by default pip (outside of the context of ensurepip) will install pip, pip2, and pip2.7 if installed in Python 2.7. In Python 3's ensurepip we modified it so that it would

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
That is copying the (alt)install targets of Python's own Makefile, and I think those are exactly right. On Oct 3, 2014 3:07 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: I'm working on the backport of ensurepip to Python 2.7, and I realized that I'm not sure which commands to install. Right now by

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Donald Stufft
Ok, so neither Python 2.7 nor Python 3.x’s ensure pip command will install a ``pip`` binary by default without a flag. That's fine with me, just wanted to make sure it made sense for Python 2.x. Thanks! On Oct 3, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: That is copying the

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
That's not what I meant. Python 2.7 does install python unless you use altinstall. On Oct 3, 2014 5:33 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Ok, so neither Python 2.7 nor Python 3.x’s ensure pip command will install a ``pip`` binary by default without a flag. That's fine with me, just

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Donald Stufft
Whoops, I misred. So to be clear, you think: install - pip, pip2, pip2.7 altinstall - pip2.7 On Oct 3, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: That's not what I meant. Python 2.7 does install python unless you use altinstall. On Oct 3, 2014 5:33 PM, Donald Stufft

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting ensurepip to 2.7, Which commands to install?

2014-10-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
Yes. On Friday, October 3, 2014, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Whoops, I misred. So to be clear, you think: install - pip, pip2, pip2.7 altinstall - pip2.7 On Oct 3, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gu...@python.org'); wrote: