On Sat, 5 May 2018 01:43:00 +1000
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 06:31:03PM +, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
> > No one is saying people can't be upset and if you are ever upset there's
> > something wrong; we're human beings after all. But those of us speaking up
> > about the tone
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 06:31:03PM +, Brett Cannon wrote:
> ..
> I'm not defending Ivan's initial email. His tantrum *was* annoying,
> unreasonable, and unfair to those who do care about tkinter. He could
> have done better.
>
> But *we
On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:07 Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Thank you Steven! I assume that Brian hadn't seen my response (such
> crossed messages due to delivery delays are very common in this mailing
> list).
>
> I'd like to use your email (nearly) verbatim to start off the discussion
> about civilit
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 06:31:03PM +, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
> > No one is saying people can't be upset and if you are ever upset there's
> > something wrong; we're human beings after all. But those of us speaking
> up
> > about the tone
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 09:04:20AM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Thank you Steven! I assume that Brian hadn't seen my response (such crossed
> messages due to delivery delays are very common in this mailing list).
>
> I'd like to use your email (nearly) verbatim to start off the discussion
> ab
Thank you Steven! I assume that Brian hadn't seen my response (such crossed
messages due to delivery delays are very common in this mailing list).
I'd like to use your email (nearly) verbatim to start off the discussion
about civility we're going to have at the Language Summit.
On Fri, May 4, 201
On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 06:31:03PM +, Brett Cannon wrote:
> No one is saying people can't be upset and if you are ever upset there's
> something wrong; we're human beings after all. But those of us speaking up
> about the tone are saying that you can also wait until you're not so upset
> to wr
On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 01:27 Paul Moore wrote:
> On 3 May 2018 at 03:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> >> Will all due respect, it's sometimes unpredictable what kind of wording
> >> Anglo-Saxons will take as an insult, as there's lot of obsequiosity
> >> there that doesn't exist in other cultures.
