I've got a feeling that policy is evil and can not be applied cleanly
when change falls out of scope of Python core .c sources and .py files
from standard library.
Right now the proposal is to add Python to %PATH% to make Python more
user friendly for newbies. I can't see what can become worse
Chris Withers wrote:
On 06/02/2011 15:25, Brian Curtin wrote:
So put the new path before the old path, or replace it? The current
patch appends to the end.
I believe the last path wins in Windows land, so that would be fine.
Actually, first one wins, as Windows starts at the beginning and
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
I've helped quite a few python newbies on Windows who are also
surprised / frustrated on learning that python on the command line
doesn't work after installing python.
Yes, I've always found it a surprising
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 04:14, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk
wrote:
I've helped quite a few python newbies on Windows who are also
surprised / frustrated on learning that python on the command line
On 06/02/2011 15:20, Brian Curtin wrote:
There are still outstanding considerations in the various issues on the
tracker, so it would be best to address them before requesting
integration. Example: What should happen when there is another Python
installation on the path?
Same as happens with
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 09:22, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
On 06/02/2011 15:20, Brian Curtin wrote:
There are still outstanding considerations in the various issues on the
tracker, so it would be best to address them before requesting
integration. Example: What should happen
On 06/02/2011 15:25, Brian Curtin wrote:
So put the new path before the old path, or replace it? The current
patch appends to the end.
I believe the last path wins in Windows land, so that would be fine.
Chris
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
On 06/02/2011 15:25, Brian Curtin wrote:
So put the new path before the old path, or replace it? The current
patch appends to the end.
I believe the last path wins in Windows land, so that would be fine.
Not that
On 6 February 2011 15:35, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
On 06/02/2011 15:25, Brian Curtin wrote:
So put the new path before the old path, or replace it? The current
patch appends to the end.
I believe the
Paul Moore writes:
Before any existing Python directories, otherwise at the end is the
closest to what I suspect most users want (certainly it matches my
preferences, and anything else would have me manually editing PATH
anyway, so is of no use to me in practice).
Unfortunately, what is
On 6 February 2011 17:07, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Paul Moore writes:
Before any existing Python directories, otherwise at the end is the
closest to what I suspect most users want (certainly it matches my
preferences, and anything else would have me manually editing
I'd like to see this in 3.2 release, of course.
As Brian already asserted: that's not feasible. I still haven't
managed to test your installer, and may not be able to for the
next few weeks. It's also against the policy for release candidates
to add such a change at this point. I believe the
On 28/01/2011 19:21, Michael Foord wrote:
I've helped quite a few python newbies on Windows who are also
surprised / frustrated on learning that python on the command line
doesn't work after installing python.
Yes, I've always found it a surprising disappointment that I have to
manually munge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:43, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 31.01.2011 22:13, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of
Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python.
This doesn't do uninstallation correctly.
I do not
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
Am 28.01.2011 20:29, schrieb Raymond Hettinger:
At the very least, we should add some prominent instructions for getting the
command line version up and running.
/me pops out of Guido's time machine and says: execute
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of
Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python.
Also available for review at: http://codereview.appspot.com/4023055
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of
Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python.
Also available for review at: http://codereview.appspot.com/4023055
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That's the
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of
Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python.
Also available for
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:43, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer
Brian Curtin wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:43, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
mailto:techto...@gmail.com wrote:
That's the easy part. It doesn't cover any of the real issues with doing
this.
Please be more specific. It will also help if you integrate this part
while it's still hot.
Am 31.01.2011 22:13, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of
Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python.
This doesn't do uninstallation correctly.
Regards,
Martin
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Hi, I'd like to
You probably know that after installation on Windows system it is
possible to call Python from Explorer's Run dialog (Win-R). It is
because Python path is added to App Paths registry key and Windows
Explorer shell checks this key when looking for executable.
But Python doesn't
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:12, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi, I'd like to
You probably know that after installation on Windows system it is
possible to call Python from Explorer's Run dialog (Win-R). It is
because Python path is added to App Paths registry key and Windows
On 28/01/2011 16:29, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:12, anatoly techtoniktechto...@gmail.comwrote:
I've seen about 7 requests to add Python into %PATH% in installer. All
closed with no result, but with some fear and uncertainty. Martin
feared that MSI installers are not able to
Hello
See http://bugs.python.org/issue3561 (rejected by Martin).
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On 28/01/2011 16:29, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:12, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
mailto:techto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I'd like to
You probably know that after installation on Windows system it is
possible to call Python from Explorer's Run dialog
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
On 28/01/2011 16:29, Brian Curtin wrote:
Recently I've talked to two Python trainers/educators and the major gripe
their attendees see is that you can't just sit down and type python and
have something work. For multi-Python installs,
Am 28.01.2011 20:29, schrieb Raymond Hettinger:
At the very least, we should add some prominent instructions for getting the
command line version up and running.
/me pops out of Guido's time machine and says: execute
Tools/scripts/win_add2path.py
I'm -1 on adding Python to %PATH%. The private
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 14:34, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
Am 28.01.2011 20:29, schrieb Raymond Hettinger:
At the very least, we should add some prominent instructions for getting
the command line version up and running.
/me pops out of Guido's time machine and says: execute
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