Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Eric Snow wrote: > I knew there was one more: http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 ("CLI > option for isolated mode"). > Along with another PYIOENCODING related one that the Blender folks reported (Christian Heimes pointed it out to me earlier today). Anyway, I crea

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Eric Snow wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson >> wrote: >>> >>> Where in the tracker? I tried searching but didn’t find it. >> >> >> This one: http://bugs.python.org/issue13475

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson > wrote: >> >> Where in the tracker? I tried searching but didn’t find it. > > > This one: http://bugs.python.org/issue13475 > > This and the issue about being able to configure coverag

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson < krist...@ccpgames.com> wrote: > Where in the tracker? I tried searching but didn’t find it. > This one: http://bugs.python.org/issue13475 This and the issue about being able to configure coverage.py cleanly in subprocesses (http://bugs.

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-22 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
Where in the tracker? I tried searching but didn't find it. I contributed to the pep405 discussions with similar concerns back in march: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117894.html From: Python-Dev [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-20 Thread Daniel Holth
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Christian Tismer > wrote: > >> On 20.11.12 12:39, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson < >> krist...@ccpgames.com> wrote: >> >>> I’m intrigued. I thought this

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Christian Tismer wrote: > On 20.11.12 12:39, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson < > krist...@ccpgames.com> wrote: > >> I’m intrigued. I thought this was merely so that one could do >> >> python –m mypackage.mysubpack

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-20 Thread Christian Tismer
On 20.11.12 12:39, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson mailto:krist...@ccpgames.com>> wrote: I’m intrigued. I thought this was merely so that one could do python –m mypackage.mysubpackage Can you refer me to the rationale and discussion abo

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson < krist...@ccpgames.com> wrote: > I’m intrigued. I thought this was merely so that one could do > > python –m mypackage.mysubpackage > > Can you refer me to the rationale and discussion about this feature? > It was part of a fairly

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-20 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
ismer; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way) Easily bundling dependencies is a key principle behind the ability to execute directories and zipfiles that contain a top level __main__.py file that was added back i

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson < krist...@ccpgames.com> wrote: > I don't have a well formed solution in mind, but I would see it desirable > to have a way for someone to release his package with all its dependencies > as a self-contained and isolated unit. E.g. if package

Re: [Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-18 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
Yes! For many years I have been very frustrated by the install-centric nature of python. I am biased, of course, by the fact that I am developing an application where python is embedded, an application that needs to run out of the box. A developer may have many many versions (branches) of the

[Python-Dev] Generally boared by installation (Re: Setting project home path the best way)

2012-11-15 Thread Christian Tismer
Hi guys, I am bored of installing things. Bored of things that happen to not work for some minor reasons. Reasons that are not immediately obvious. Things that don't work because some special case was not handled. Things that compile for half an hour and then complain that something is not as