Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics?

2012-06-08 Thread Ethan Furman
Dan Stromberg wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Dan Stromberg wrote: Did the import semantics change in cpython 3.3a4? I used to be able to import treap.py even though I had a treap directory in my cwd. With 3.3a4, I have to rename the treap directory to see treap.py.

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics?

2012-06-08 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 6/8/2012 6:41 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Dan Stromberg wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Dan Stromberg wrote: Did the import semantics change in cpython 3.3a4? I used to be able to import treap.py even though I had a treap directory in my cwd. With 3.3a4, I have to

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-06 Thread Samuele Pedroni
Frank Wierzbicki wrote: On 7/5/06, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Have you and/or the Jython community made up your mind about this? The thread seems to have disappeared after you posted (or perhaps it continued only on jython-dev, which I don't read?). The thread

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 6/25/06, Frank Wierzbicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the untrimmed conversation, but I've cc'ed jython-dev, my comments are at the bottom. On 6/12/06, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/12/06, Samuele Pedroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabio Zadrozny wrote: Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 7/5/06, Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 July 2006 18:12, Guido van Rossum wrote: I'm asked occasionally what the status of Jython is; people point out that the last release was 2.1 many years ago and the website has no news since early 2005; thy're afraid that

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
In that case, why not post a news item saying this? The website is probably the first place people look... I think any news other than here is the beta -- follow this link to download it would be kind of a waste at this point. And that will come when I finish __slots__, subclassable type, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On 7/5/06, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Have you and/or the Jython community made up your mind about this? The thread seems to have disappeared after you posted (or perhaps it continued only on jython-dev, which I don't read?). The thread pretty much stopped there. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread skip
Frank That said, I still regard Samuele Pedroni as the ultimate Frank authority on Jython and give him pretty much full veto power. He Frank fortunately continues to watch the checkins and prods me when I Frank go in the wrong direction. Does that make Samele the DBPV (Dictator

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Alex Martelli
In Italian that would be DBAV (Dittatore benevolo a vita)...;-) Alex On 7/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank That said, I still regard Samuele Pedroni as the ultimate Frank authority on Jython and give him pretty much full veto power. He Frank fortunately

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On 7/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank That said, I still regard Samuele Pedroni as the ultimate Frank authority on Jython and give him pretty much full veto power. He Frank fortunately continues to watch the checkins and prods me when I Frank go in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread skip
Skip Does that make Samele the DBPV (Dictator benevolo per vita)? ;-) Alex In Italian that would be DBAV (Dittatore benevolo a vita)...;-) Damn Google Translator. File a bug report for me please Alex (or Guido or Jeremy or Neal or ...). ;-) Skip

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-07-05 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 7/5/06, Frank Wierzbicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank That said, I still regard Samuele Pedroni as the ultimate Frank authority on Jython and give him pretty much full veto power. He Frank fortunately continues to

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-25 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
Sorry for the untrimmed conversation, but I've cc'ed jython-dev, my comments are at the bottom. On 6/12/06, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/12/06, Samuele Pedroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabio Zadrozny wrote: Python and Jython import semantics differ on how sub-packages

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-12 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 6/12/06, Samuele Pedroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabio Zadrozny wrote: Python and Jython import semantics differ on how sub-packages should be accessed after importing some module: Jython 2.1 on java1.5.0 (JIT: null) Type copyright, credits or license for more information.

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-12 Thread Bill Janssen
the difference in Jython is deliberate. I think the reason was to mimic more the Java style for this, in java fully qualified names always work. In jython importing the top level packages is enough to get a similar effect. This is unlikely to change for backward compatibility reasons, at

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-12 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Bill Janssen wrote: If it's Python, it has to comply with the Python specification, regardless of what Java does. what specification ? /F ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-12 Thread Bill Janssen
/F writes: what [Python] specification? Good meta-point. Bill ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-12 Thread Bill Janssen
this is mildy insulting, to the people that spent time trying to find the best compromises between various issues and keep jython alive. Sorry, didn't mean to disparage that work. Bill ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-11 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Python and Jython import semantics differ on how sub-packages should be accessed after importing some module:Jython 2.1 on java1.5.0 (JIT: null)Type copyright, credits or license for more information. import xml xml.dommodule xml.dom at 10340434Python 2.4.2 (#67, Sep 28 2005, 12:41:11) [MSC

Re: [Python-Dev] Import semantics

2006-06-11 Thread Terry Reedy
Fabio Zadrozny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message Jython 2.1 on java1.5.0 (JIT: null) Python 2.4.2 (#67, Sep 28 2005, 12:41:11) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Jython 2.1 intends to match Python 2.1, I believe. Python 2.2, which I still have loaded, matches Python 2.4 in the behavior