Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/7/23 Alexander Belopolsky : >> Thanks, everyone who followed up here and on the tracker.  I am >> readying the patch for check in, but as I look back through the >> messages, I don't really see anyone's answer to the question in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/7/23 Alexander Belopolsky : > Thanks, everyone who followed up here and on the tracker.  I am > readying the patch for check in, but as I look back through the > messages, I don't really see anyone's answer to the question in the > subject: > > *  Include datetime.py in stdlib or not? > > I ho

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-23 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Thanks, everyone who followed up here and on the tracker. I am readying the patch for check in, but as I look back through the messages, I don't really see anyone's answer to the question in the subject: * Include datetime.py in stdlib or not? I hope this means an implied "yes, include." Since

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: >.. and "import _strptime" had to be moved from function level to > module level after class definitions due to circular dependency of > _strptime on datetime. This turned out to be not such a great idea. Importing _strptime at the mod

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-13 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: .. > I can say that all the VM representatives have all said they like the idea. This is encouraging. Here is an update on the status of datetime.py. I believe it is mostly ready to move from sandbox to py3k/Lib. The patch is available on the

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-08 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:17, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/7/2010 3:32 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >> That's the idea. We already have contributors from the various VMs who >> has commit privileges, but they all work in their own repos for >> convenience. My hope is that if we break the stdlib out into

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/7/2010 3:32 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: That's the idea. We already have contributors from the various VMs who has commit privileges, but they all work in their own repos for convenience. My hope is that if we break the stdlib out into its own repository that people simply pull in then other VM

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-07 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 20:54, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/6/2010 3:59 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: > > I am more interested in Brett's overall vision than this particular module. > I understand that to be one of a stdlib that is separate from CPython and is > indeed the standard Python library. >

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-07 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/6/2010 3:59 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: [.. skipping more general stdlib discussion see "Python equivalents in stdlib" thread ..] >> 2. There are other areas of stdlib that can benefit more from pure >> python equivalents. > > Possibl

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/6/2010 3:59 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: I am more interested in Brett's overall vision than this particular module. I understand that to be one of a stdlib that is separate from CPython and is indeed the standard Python library. Questions: !. Would the other distributions use a stan

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: > What do you think?  Please reply here or add a comment at > http://bugs.python.org/issue7989. (For those that haven't read the tracker discussion, it's long, but worth skimming to get a better idea of the various points of view). +1 o

Re: [Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:59, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: > This idea has been discussed extensively in this and other forums and > I believe it is time to make a decision. > > The proposal is to add pure python implementation of datetime module > to stdlib.   The current C implementation will tra

[Python-Dev] Include datetime.py in stdlib or not?

2010-07-06 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
This idea has been discussed extensively in this and other forums and I believe it is time to make a decision. The proposal is to add pure python implementation of datetime module to stdlib. The current C implementation will transparently override pure python definitions in CPython. Other pytho