Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080413 19:59], "Martin v. Löwis" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Making suggestions on the list, and then following up with patch, >is certainly encouraged, and happens all the time. Here you go. >I just think that *this* specific proposed change is more effort to >talk about than it's worth.

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon schrieb: >> +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have >> to collect -J, we have deeper problems than having to coordinate >> with Jython whether the letter is still available. > > +0 Shall I remove the reservation of -J again? Christian

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > > > > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > > > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > > > implemented", from somebody already looking at that code. > > > > It's already committed, so one

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > > > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > > im

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > implemented", from somebody already looking at th

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > Isn't that bikeshedding? No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, implemented", from somebody already

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? Ie, > I suppose that the intent is not that these arguments won't be > standardized, it's that they be standardized by the affected > implementations. Isn't that bikeshedding? Regards, Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Frank Wierzbicki writes: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. > This would work just fine for us, and it makes sense to have it > available for al

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:08 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay > > with the other devs? > > +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have > to collect -J, we have deeper problems than ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay > with the other devs? +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have to collect -J, we have deeper problems than having to coordinate with Jython whether the letter is still available. Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon schrieb: > > >> -X is reserved for non-standard arguments > > > > Fine by me. > > And implemented in r62293 (trunk) Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay with the other d

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon schrieb: >> -X is reserved for non-standard arguments > > Fine by me. And implemented in r62293 (trunk) Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. > This would work just fine for us

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. This would work just fine for us, and it makes sense to have it available for all implementations. If everyone likes th

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Neal Norwitz
> > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank > Wierzbicki > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14 PM > To: Brett Cannon > Cc: Guido van Rossum; python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Foord
Frank Wierzbicki wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and >>> >> > rejects it w

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Dino Viehland
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". > > > > Do we want

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". > Do we want it to be Jython-specific, or should it be available to any alternative VM? I don't know

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
Patch is here: http://bugs.python.org/issue2617 -Frank ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". Great! Knowing this crowd it is probably already implemented -- but if not I'd love to dust off my C

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if it might be possible for Jython to get an "arg > space" for command li

[Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
Hi all, I was wondering if it might be possible for Jython to get an "arg space" for command line execution. We try to deliver the same switches that Python delivers (so for example -c means "program passed in as string" on Python and Jython). We have some need for arguments that would be Jython