Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-22 Thread Tim Peters
[Neal Norwitz] > ... > I also think I know how to do the "double builds" (one release and one > debug). But it's too late for me to change it tonight without > screwing it up. I'm not mad :-). The debug build is more fruitful than the release build for finding problems, so doing two debug-build

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Hudson
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tim Peters wrote: >> Speaking of which, a number of test failures over the past few weeks >> were provoked here only under -r (run tests in random order) or under >> a debug build, and didn't look like those were specific to Windows. >> Adding -r to

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-22 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 2/21/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with this, but don't know a clean way to do 2 builds. I > modified buildbot to: > > - Stop doing the second "without deleting .py[co]" run. > - Do one run with a debug build. > - Use -uall -r for both. I screwed it up, so now it d

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 2/21/06, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Neal> IMO compiler warnings should generate emails from buildbot. > > > > It doesn't generate emails for any other condition. I think it should just > > turn the compilation section yellow. > > It would be

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 2/21/06, Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since the most fruitful variations (IME) for finding code errors are > using -r and running a debug build too, I'd change the current > run-all-the-time recipes to: > > - Stop doing the second "without deleting .py[co]" run. > - Do one run with

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
Martin> So for multiplying this by 8, I would have to create 48 lines of Martin> Apache configuration, and use 24 TCP ports. This can be done, Martin> but it would take some time to implement. I'm not too worried about that because it's a one-time cost. I'd be willing to help out. J

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
>> Let me rephrase that. I assume the people digging through Py_ssize_t >> issues have been looking at compilation warnings for platforms other >> than Mac OSX. Martin> In the buildbot log, I see only a single one of these, and only Martin> in an OSX-specific module. So no -

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Tim Peters
[Martin v. Löwis] > So what is your recipe: I don't have one. I personally always use -uall and -r, and then run the tests 8 times, w/ and w/o -O, under debug and release builds, and w/ and w/o deleting .py[co] files first. Because that last one almost never finds problems anymore, perhaps it wo

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Andrew Bennetts
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > > So for multiplying this by 8, I would have to create 48 lines of > Apache configuration, and use 24 TCP ports. This can be done, but > it would take some time to implement. And who is going to look > at the 24 pages? This last point is t

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now that you've broken the buildbot page into two (trunk and 2.4) I assume > breaking it down even further wouldn't be a major undertaking. If we can > recruit a suitable number of boxes I see no particular reason you can't > support a 2x, 4x, 8x or more increase in the

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
Martin> So what is your recipe: Add -r to all buildbots? Only to those Martin> which have an 'a' in their name? Only to every third build? Martin> Duplicating the number of builders? Martin> Same question for --with-pydebug. Combining this with -r would Martin> multiply the nu

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Terry Reedy wrote: > "Neal Norwitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>There's nothing to prevent buildbot from making debug builds, though >>that is not currently done. > > > Now that there are separate report pages for 2.4 and 2.5, you could add > pages for deb

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Neal> IMO compiler warnings should generate emails from buildbot. > > It doesn't generate emails for any other condition. I think it should just > turn the compilation section yellow. It would be easy to run the builds with -Werror, making warnings let the compil

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ronald> How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you > Ronald> get while building the Carbon extensions? > > skip> I see a bunch related to Py_ssize_t. Those have nothing to do > skip> with Carbon. I don't see them on the gentoo build,

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neal Norwitz wrote: >>How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you get >>while building the Carbon extensions? Those extensions wrap loads of >>deprecated functions, each of which will give a warning. > > > RIght: > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/g4%20osx.4%20trunk/builds

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tim Peters wrote: > Speaking of which, a number of test failures over the past few weeks > were provoked here only under -r (run tests in random order) or under > a debug build, and didn't look like those were specific to Windows. > Adding -r to the buildbot test recipe is a decent idea. Getting

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Reedy
"Neal Norwitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > There's nothing to prevent buildbot from making debug builds, though > that is not currently done. Now that there are separate report pages for 2.4 and 2.5, you could add pages for debug builds, perhaps with a lower fr

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
Ronald> How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you Ronald> get while building the Carbon extensions? skip> I see a bunch related to Py_ssize_t. Those have nothing to do skip> with Carbon. I don't see them on the gentoo build, so I assume skip> they just ha

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
>> Unfortunately, there are a ton of warnings on OS X right now. Ronald> How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you Ronald> get while building the Carbon extensions? I see a bunch related to Py_ssize_t. Those have nothing to do with Carbon. I don't see them on th

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread skip
Neal> IMO compiler warnings should generate emails from buildbot. It doesn't generate emails for any other condition. I think it should just turn the compilation section yellow. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-feb-2006, at 10:19, Neal Norwitz wrote: > On 2/21/06, Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 21-feb-2006, at 9:09, Neal Norwitz wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately, there are a ton of >>> warnings on OS X right now. >> >> How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you ge

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 2/21/06, Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 21-feb-2006, at 9:09, Neal Norwitz wrote: > > > Unfortunately, there are a ton of > > warnings on OS X right now. > > How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you get > while building the Carbon extensions? Those extensi

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-feb-2006, at 9:09, Neal Norwitz wrote: > Unfortunately, there are a ton of > warnings on OS X right now. How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you get while building the Carbon extensions? Those extensions wrap loads of deprecated functions, each of which will give a w

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-21 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 2/20/06, Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Speaking as a PSF director, I might not vote for that :-) Fact is > I've been keeping the build & tests 100% healthy on WinXP Pro, and > that requires more than just running the tests (it also requires > repairing compiler warnings and Unixisms

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-20 Thread Tim Peters
[Aahz] > If you're willing to commit to running a buildbot, and the only thing > preventing you is shelling out $$$ to Microsoft, send me e-mail. I'll > compile a list to send to the PSF and we'll either poke Microsoft to > provide some more free licenses or pay for it ourselves. This is what > t

[Python-Dev] buildbot vs. Windows

2006-02-20 Thread Aahz
If you're willing to commit to running a buildbot, and the only thing preventing you is shelling out $$$ to Microsoft, send me e-mail. I'll compile a list to send to the PSF and we'll either poke Microsoft to provide some more free licenses or pay for it ourselves. This is what the PSF is for! N