Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-05 Thread Stefan Behnel
Ethan, I take your three points and apologise for not making it a pleasant experience for any of us. Regarding the rest: Ethan Furman, 04.10.2013 16:30: > starting a trouble ticket with accusations ... and, in fact, I didn't. > that something was snuck in and done behind peoples' backs Sorry

Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-04 Thread Ethan Furman
On 10/02/2013 11:58 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I recently had in this developer community. Actually, twice by now. Here's what I take from it: You should take responsibility for your commits. It doesn't sound like you learned anything, the

Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stephen, thank you for your very thoughtful answer. Stephen J. Turnbull, 03.10.2013 04:23: > Stefan Behnel writes: > > > Hi, I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I > > recently had in this developer community. Actually, twice by > > now. Here's what I take from it: You shou

[Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stefan Behnel writes: > Hi, I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I > recently had in this developer community. Actually, twice by > now. Here's what I take from it: You should take responsibility for > your commits. I have no clue who you're addressing this advice to. If i

Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Oct 2013 09:00, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > > Stefan, > > You blew up a minor design disagreement over the new async parsing API for XML into a huge impending disaster that would destroy the XML library APIs forever. In truth, even if we had left the original commit alone it would, at worst, have

Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
Stefan, You blew up a minor design disagreement over the new async parsing API for XML into a huge impending disaster that would destroy the XML library APIs forever. In truth, even if we had left the original commit alone it would, at worst, have resulted in a slightly inconsistent API design. I

Re: [Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I recently had in > this developer community. Actually, twice by now. Here's what I take from > it: > > You should take responsibility for your commits. > > Sounds like a simple

[Python-Dev] project culture: take responsibility for your commits

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan Behnel
Hi, I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I recently had in this developer community. Actually, twice by now. Here's what I take from it: You should take responsibility for your commits. Sounds like a simple thing - in theory. People make mistakes, that's normal. You can't alwa