[Python-Dev] Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Randy Chung
Hi everyone, I'm going to be leading a class on Python at the University of California, Berkeley next semester (starting in January). I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises for the class, the goal being 1) to give the students something real to work with, and 2) to

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote: Attribution deleted: No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed that yes, we do need a management-friendly marketing site, and that we could put it on a

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Dennis Allison
Ummm... I don't think that anyone looks for information by trolling subdomain names. If I am looking for python information, I go to www.python.org or python.org. I would never guess business.python.org. Seems to me that what we need is content and let the search engines bring on the masses.

[Python-Dev] Re: Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Reedy
For a subsite aimed at businesses, business.python.org is obvious and easily remembered. Not all businesses are corporations. 'about' and 'why' are not specific at all. I think such a subsite, linked from the main site also, would be a good idea. It should explain both why (including

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: suggested hostname: why.python.org It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org? Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
Oleg Broytmann wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: suggested hostname: why.python.org It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org? about.python.org? And if someone ends up playing with

[Python-Dev] Re: Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Reedy
Randy Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I'm going to be leading a class on Python at the University of California, Berkeley next semester (starting in January). Great. I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises Please consider

Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Paul Moore wrote: For a starter, what steps do you actually take to build a release? I assume that the first step is to build Python, by clicking on build in VS.NET. Yes. You can skip this step by just putting all the .pyds, dlls, and .exes into the PCbuild directory. The packaging will try to

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Brett C.
Terry Reedy wrote: Randy Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SNIP] I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises Please consider including review of existing patches. Besides being useful, it will also teach students how to submit good patches of

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Stephan Deibel
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Aahz wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote: Attribution deleted: No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed that yes, we do need a management-friendly