Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-03-02 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 27 February 2015 at 11:02, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 2015 3:14 PM, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > > > >> For those not following along with the FPC ticket, Toshio and Tomspur > >> have a nice write-up of the options at > >> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/2

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-27 Thread Konstantin Zemlyak
Miro Hrončok пишет: > On 27.2.2015 21:06, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Oh it seems only in the latest revision someone took the courtesy of > translating it all to Russian. That text is machine-translated and poorly at that. -- Zart ___ python-devel mailing l

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27.2.2015 21:06, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 26.2.2015 00:13, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> For those not following along with the FPC ticket, Toshio and Tomspur >> have a nice write-up of the options at >> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/2Uqk0ikCll >> > > This thing is in Russian (while I guess it is actua

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26.2.2015 00:13, Nick Coghlan wrote: > For those not following along with the FPC ticket, Toshio and Tomspur > have a nice write-up of the options at > https://etherpad.mozilla.org/2Uqk0ikCll > This thing is in Russian (while I guess it is actually about Python and I see some Fedora links in t

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 27 February 2015 at 11:02, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2015 3:14 PM, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > >> For those not following along with the FPC ticket, Toshio and Tomspur >> have a nice write-up of the options at >> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/2Uqk0ikCll >> >> I came back to this questio

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Feb 25, 2015 3:14 PM, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > For those not following along with the FPC ticket, Toshio and Tomspur > have a nice write-up of the options at > https://etherpad.mozilla.org/2Uqk0ikCll > > I came back to this question myself due to a couple of different > ideas, discussed in http

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-26 Thread Thomas Spura
Nick Coghlan schrieb am Do., 26. Feb. 2015 um 00:14 Uhr: > On 5 February 2015 at 17:48, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 4 February 2015 at 21:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > >> - Original Message - > >>> I don't really feel strongly about this, I agree that your solution > has a > >>> merit (an

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 February 2015 at 17:48, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 4 February 2015 at 21:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> - Original Message - >>> I don't really feel strongly about this, I agree that your solution has a >>> merit (and syspython *is* better than default_python :)). I think I'll open >>>

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 February 2015 at 21:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > - Original Message - >> I don't really feel strongly about this, I agree that your solution has a >> merit (and syspython *is* better than default_python :)). I think I'll open >> an FPC ticket to ask FPC for their opinions on this and

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-04 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > I don't really feel strongly about this, I agree that your solution has a > merit (and syspython *is* better than default_python :)). I think I'll open > an FPC ticket to ask FPC for their opinions on this and then I'll start > taking concrete steps [1] ;) to get this

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-02-02 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > > I will. Do you have any idea who I should talk to regarding EPEL? Is it > > also Dennis? > > > Also dennis. Rel-eng is growing as a group so you could also put in > a ticket/go to one of their weekly meetings but Dennis is probably still the > one that knows the mo

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:59:01AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > - Original Message - > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 06:26:26AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > > > > > Current state: > > > - Up until F21, maintainers were encouraged to build applications with > > > Python 2, but weren't d

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-28 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 06:26:26AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > > > Current state: > > - Up until F21, maintainers were encouraged to build applications with > > Python 2, but weren't discouraged from building with Python 3. > > Note -- this isn't quite right.

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-28 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 28 January 2015 at 03:32, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:50:07PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> What if, instead, we were able to add a new macro that let folks > >> *explicitly* opt in to running in the "system Python", but then define > >

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 28 January 2015 at 03:32, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:50:07PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> What if, instead, we were able to add a new macro that let folks >> *explicitly* opt in to running in the "system Python", but then define >> the recommended spec file usage such

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:50:07PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > > %if 0%{?fedora} > > %global default_python python3 > > %else > > %global default_python python > > %endif > > I'm wary of this proposed solution mostly due to the fact that in the > middle of last year, the Beaker team had to go

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 06:26:26AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Current state: > - Up until F21, maintainers were encouraged to build applications with Python > 2, but weren't discouraged from building with Python 3. Note -- this isn't quite right. If an application could run with either p

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 27 January 2015 at 21:26, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hey all, > > I just wanted to ask for some thoughts on a "problem" (or rather a > > "hardship") that is starting to show with the Python 3 transition in > > Fedora. > > I've been contacted by two maintainers of

Re: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 27 January 2015 at 21:26, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hey all, > I just wanted to ask for some thoughts on a "problem" (or rather a > "hardship") that is starting to show with the Python 3 transition in Fedora. > I've been contacted by two maintainers of "applications" in Fedora for advice > and

Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL

2015-01-27 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hey all, I just wanted to ask for some thoughts on a "problem" (or rather a "hardship") that is starting to show with the Python 3 transition in Fedora. I've been contacted by two maintainers of "applications" in Fedora for advice and have been thinking for some time how to solve this: Note: by