Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-09 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > Hi all, > as you are well aware, there is the "Python 3 as Default" change proposed for > F22 [1]. There are several guideline changes that will need to be done and > some that may be done in order to improve the situation. I'd like to make > this thread a sort of bra

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 11:18:58PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > I think these are good reasons to default to using the dash if its > Fedora adding it. The guideline could be something like "For Python > executables, also provide symlinks with a '-X' and '-X.Y' suffix, > unless upstream already p

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 08:10:39AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > > > * sphinx-build-v0.9 > > * sphinx-build-2-v0.9 > > * sphinx-build-2.7-v0.9 > > * sphinx-build-3-v0.9 > > * sphinx-build-3.7-v0.9 > > I'd rather see sphinx-build-v0.9-3.4. IMO keeping the Python version at > the very end in ev

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 December 2014 at 23:10, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:51:40AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> > >> > On 4 Dec 2014 00:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" wrote: >> > > - (This is not really related to the switch, but more of a general >> > > remark) In >

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-04 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > I hope you don't mind me chiming in on a few relevant things from Debianland. I don't mind, it's quite the opposite actually, I appreciate your comments! > On Dec 03, 2014, at 09:37 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > >In [3], it says "If the executables provide the sam

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-04 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:51:40AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > > On 4 Dec 2014 00:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" wrote: > > > - (This is not really related to the switch, but more of a general > > > remark) In > > [4], it says that "python 3 version of the executable ga

Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:51:40AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 4 Dec 2014 00:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" wrote: > > > > So here are my proposals for changes in current guidelines [2]: > > - In [3], it says "If the executables provide the same functionality > independent of whether they are run on

Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nick Coghlan < ncogh...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > - (This is not really related to the switch, but more of a general > > > remark) > > > In [4], it says that "python 3 version of the executable gains a python3- > > > prefix". This is IMO b

Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 Dec 2014 00:59, "Donald Stufft" wrote: > > > On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> > - (This is not really related to the switch, but more of a general remark) In [4], it says that "python 3 version of the executable gains a python3- prefix". This is IMO bad, since upstream pr

Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > - (This is not really related to the switch, but more of a general remark) > > In [4], it says that "python 3 version of the executable gains a python3- > > prefix". This is IMO bad, since upstream projects tend to name the > > versioned

Re: Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 Dec 2014 00:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" wrote: > > So here are my proposals for changes in current guidelines [2]: > - In [3], it says "If the executables provide the same functionality independent of whether they are run on top of Python 2 or Python 3, then only one version of the executable shoul

Changes in Guidelines Connected to "Python 3 as Default" Change

2014-12-03 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi all, as you are well aware, there is the "Python 3 as Default" change proposed for F22 [1]. There are several guideline changes that will need to be done and some that may be done in order to improve the situation. I'd like to make this thread a sort of brainstorming on my thoughts as well as