Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-08-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 11:29:30AM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "MH" == Miro Hrončok writes: > > MH> I just had a discussion with Tomáš Orsava and Petr Viktorin on > MH> #fedora-python. Rather than asking FESCo now to allow mass > MH> fully-automated spec changing, we'll open bugs a

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-08-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MH" == Miro Hrončok writes: MH> I just had a discussion with Tomáš Orsava and Petr Viktorin on MH> #fedora-python. Rather than asking FESCo now to allow mass MH> fully-automated spec changing, we'll open bugs as planned, but we'll MH> attach patches generated by your script to them. It's

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-08-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 29.7.2017 01:27, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:11:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 28.7.2017 22:44, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 08:44:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > > > renam

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:11:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 28.7.2017 22:44, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > >>wrote: > >>>Do you think it'd be possible to script

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Kus
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Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 22:44, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense t

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > > renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to > > do it in rawhide no

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 20:11, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 01:53 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: I'm opposed to switching the meaning of `/usr/bin/python` for AH anytime soon. It's just going to break stuff, and to me the gain is quite l

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 18:38, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 11:42, Miro Hrončok > wrote: On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Yes, we hear

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 18:41, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: It's up to the maintainers of Atomic Host to decide what's there. I don't see how that relates to this thread. We have never said anything about what is supposed to be or not to be in the Atomic Host

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 28 July 2017 at 11:42, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: > >> I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm >> going to repeat it. >> > > Yes, we hear you. > > Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. >> > > It is.

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 17:51, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: The change has to start somewhere and even though I cannot really speak about RHEL, I would think that changing it in Fedora first makes more sense. There hasn't been a single "Fedora" since we la

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Yes, we hear you. Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. It is. However it is hard to coordinate a future change with RHEL7 that is

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 16:17, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 07:47 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. Tha

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 14:29, Brian Exelbierd wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous di

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 12:48, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. That again? Seems like a never ending story, right? :( > That really seems like a nonstarter; previous> discussion

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.7.2017 09:51, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to do it in rawhide now and get the "easy" part done with?

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 29 July 2017 at 00:25, John Dennis wrote: > I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going > to repeat it. > > Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. > > Yes I know Fedora is independent of both Red Hat and RHEL but the real world > rea

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread John Dennis
I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. Yes I know Fedora is independent of both Red Hat and RHEL but the real world reality is spec files are shared between both. At the mome

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 09:49:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 27.7.2017 19:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > >renaming? > > May be possible but given the variety in the spec files, we didn't > think it would be ea

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to > do it in rawhide now and get the "easy" part done with? That should > significantly cut down

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27.7.2017 19:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? May be possible but given the variety in the spec files, we didn't think it would be easy. IMHO taking a bunch of provenpackagers and updating the packages ma

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to do it in rawhide now and get the "easy" part done with? That should significantly cut down on the number of misnamed packages and let packagers spend their time

Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

2017-07-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello fellow Fedora contributors, We've created a page on Fedora wiki [1] that's something like a Change proposal*. The document is called "Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3" and it describes steps needed in order to: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 i