Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread eryk sun
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 7 February 2017 at 14:29, Steve Dower wrote: >> You can leave python.exe out of your distribution to avoid it showing up on >> PATH, or if your stub explicitly LoadLibrary's vcruntime140.dll and then >> python36.dll you should be able to put

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet? Results on my poll on Twitter

2017-02-07 Thread Mahmoud Hashemi
Let the dissection of the Twitter-based biases and bubbles begin. :) On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 1:15 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > I created the following poll on Twitter with a duration of 7 days: > """ > Is it Python 3 yet? > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2017-January/01

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-02-07 Thread Pavol Lisy
On 2/7/17, Mike Miller wrote: > Hmm, agreed. BTW, I think the current download page is *way* too > complicated > for new comers. > > There should be a giant button for the latest 3.x/64 (platform sniffed), > and below it a more subtle button for the "LTS" 2.X/32. I am afraid that "LTS" could con

Re: [Python-ideas] math.nextafter

2017-02-07 Thread Random832
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017, at 10:15, Steve Dower wrote: > These days, the subset of C99 supported by MSVC is "most" of it, so feel > free to start off by assuming the best, at least for new features (the > version we use for 2.7 obviously is not improving). The subset of the C *library*, anyway, since i

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-02-07 Thread Sven R. Kunze
Agree with all of this. That's state of the art for many projects. On 07.02.2017 07:35, Mike Miller wrote: Hmm, agreed. BTW, I think the current download page is *way* too complicated for new comers. There should be a giant button for the latest 3.x/64 (platform sniffed), and below it a more

Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Moore
On 7 February 2017 at 14:29, Steve Dower wrote: > You can leave python.exe out of your distribution to avoid it showing up on > PATH, or if your stub explicitly LoadLibrary's vcruntime140.dll and then > python36.dll you should be able to put them wherever you like. Understood, but I may need pyth

Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017, at 02:29 PM, Steve Dower wrote: > I think what we really want is a self-extractor that "installs" into > the user's AppData directory without prompting for admin. There's a PR in the works for Pynsist that will add a non-admin per-user install into AppData: https://github.co

Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread Steve Dower
You can leave python.exe out of your distribution to avoid it showing up on PATH, or if your stub explicitly LoadLibrary's vcruntime140.dll and then python36.dll you should be able to put them wherever you like. I think what we really want is a self-extractor that "installs" into the user's App

Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Moore
On 7 February 2017 at 12:33, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Paul Moore wrote: >> I'm working on >> a project to bundle a working zipapp with the embedded distribution to >> make a standalone exe - would having something like that make any >> difference in your environme

Re: [Python-ideas] Using Python for end user applications

2017-02-07 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > I'm working on > a project to bundle a working zipapp with the embedded distribution to > make a standalone exe - would having something like that make any > difference in your environment? I'd be interested in this, and whether there's any po

[Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet? Results on my poll on Twitter

2017-02-07 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, I created the following poll on Twitter with a duration of 7 days: """ Is it Python 3 yet? https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2017-January/01.html I proposed to hide Python 2 by default from the http://python.org download page. ( ) It's Python 3 O'Clock! ( ) Have some legacy p