Re: [Python-ideas] Off topic: 'strike a balance' - second language English

2018-08-19 Thread Jacco van Dorp
I would consider conciseness and accuracy most important. Using jargon but linking to accurate explanations would, in my not exactly humble opinion, be the best way to go about it. ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.

Re: [Python-ideas] Does jargon make learning more difficult?

2018-08-19 Thread Jonathan Fine
Hi Stephen I've just been reading the (excellent) discussion, started by Victor Stinner [Python-Dev] Translated Python documentation https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2017-February/147416.html # Start of thread. You wrote, and asked for comments on: > Finally, before getting the pro

Re: [Python-ideas] Does jargon make learning more difficult?

2018-08-19 Thread Jonathan Fine
Hi Stephen Thank you for your message. I'll respond just to a few of your comments. HOW MUCH EFFORT ON DOCS == Myself and you wrote: >> Summary: Discussion of the words 'jargon' and 'chatter'. Recommend >> that we learn better how to find a compromise (strike a balance)

Re: [Python-ideas] Jump to function as an an alternative to call function

2018-08-19 Thread Kirill Balunov
вс, 19 авг. 2018 г. в 17:51, Chris Angelico : > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Kirill Balunov > wrote: > > > [...] > > I have the same feeling and already have asked the same question before > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2018-February/731241.html. > The > > main take away w

Re: [Python-ideas] Jump to function as an an alternative to call function

2018-08-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Kirill Balunov wrote: > > чт, 16 авг. 2018 г. в 22:37, Chris Barker via Python-ideas > : >> >> >> I wonder why locals doesn't return a Mapping Proxy, or other read-only >> mapping object? >> >> If it's not guaranteed to be THE locals dict, and changes *may* not af

Re: [Python-ideas] Jump to function as an an alternative to call function

2018-08-19 Thread Kirill Balunov
чт, 16 авг. 2018 г. в 22:37, Chris Barker via Python-ideas < python-ideas@python.org>: > > I wonder why locals doesn't return a Mapping Proxy, or other read-only > mapping object? > > If it's not guaranteed to be THE locals dict, and changes *may* not affect > the real one (but may), a read-only o

Re: [Python-ideas] Does jargon make learning more difficult?

2018-08-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
tl;dr I don't think so, not very much. There are bigger fish to fry. I would appreciate comments on the last paragraph (before the footnotes), which can be read standalone. If opinion is at all favorable, I'll raise it with the PSF. Jonathan Fine writes: > Summary: Discussion of the words 'ja