[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 07:41, Martin Teichmann wrote: > > Hi list, > > as you might have noticed, I am trying to improve the syntax and semantics > for symbolic math in Python. Until now, I have to say, my ideas were not that > well received, but I learned from the discussion and maybe this

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Shreyan Avigyan
People always come up with hacks like Ir. Robert Vanden Eynde has come up with the vertical bar hack. This is why I feel there's no need to have additional performance decrease and new syntax only to solve a little problem that occurs in some third party like sympy.

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread David Lowry-Duda
> Oh no, not the vertical bar hack. :-( This is my first time seeing the vertical bar hack. I guess this is something that has appeared before? - DLD ___ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
Oh no, not the vertical bar hack. :-( ___ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Ir. Robert Vanden Eynde
> solve(x**2 == 1/2) pip install funcoperators >>> solve(x ** 2 |Equals| 1/2) <<< Equals = infix(Eq) <<< from sympy import Eq Le mer. 19 mai 2021 à 08:40, Martin Teichmann a écrit : > Hi list, > > as you might have noticed, I am trying to improve the syntax and semantics > for symbolic math

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Ir. Robert Vanden Eynde
SUB Hello everyone, what is the usual way to "like" a mail in the maillist and subscribing to the thread ? By sending a message it adds me to the "Participants" in the webapp which is neat (I can then search for my messages) I could do it in the webapp but not everybody will see it Le mer. 19

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread David Lowry-Duda
> To frame the problem, let us try to solve the equation x ** 2 == 1/2 > using sympy: > > >>> from sympy import Eq, solve, symbols, S > >>> x = symbols("x") > >>> solve(Eq(x**2, S(1)/2)) > [-sqrt(2)/2, sqrt(2)/2] > > that worked well, but actually we would like to write the

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread André Roberge
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:14 AM Ricky Teachey wrote: > It's a neat idea but I agree with the others that as proposed, it's > probably too focused on turning python into a better mathematics tool, > rather than turning python into a better programming language. > > That being said, from a more

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Shreyan Avigyan
I'm +1 on the idea but -1 on the proposed syntax. Yes it would be kind of nice *but* it's not how Python arithmetic or grammar works. And why should Python have that functionality? AFAICT Python doesn't have a module in stdlib for symbolic math. This looks like a feature request to third party

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Ricky Teachey
It's a neat idea but I agree with the others that as proposed, it's probably too focused on turning python into a better mathematics tool, rather than turning python into a better programming language. That being said, from a more generalist standpoint I wonder if it would be useful in many

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Jonathan Fine
Martin wrote: as you might have noticed, I am trying to improve the syntax and semantics > for symbolic math in Python. Until now, I have to say, my ideas were not > that well received, but I learned from the discussion and maybe this time I > come up with something people like. > For about 10

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Paul Moore
On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 07:41, Martin Teichmann wrote: > that worked well, but actually we would like to write the last line simply as > > >>> solve(x**2 == 1/2) > > as you might notice, this is fully legal Python syntax. Unfortunately the > semantics is such that sympy has no way to

[Python-ideas] Re: symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Henk-Jaap Wagenaar
On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 07:41, Martin Teichmann wrote: > Hi list, > > To frame the problem, let us try to solve the equation x ** 2 == 1/2 > using sympy: > > >>> from sympy import Eq, solve, symbols, S > >>> x = symbols("x") > >>> solve(Eq(x**2, S(1)/2)) > [-sqrt(2)/2, sqrt(2)/2]

[Python-ideas] symbolic math in Python

2021-05-19 Thread Martin Teichmann
Hi list, as you might have noticed, I am trying to improve the syntax and semantics for symbolic math in Python. Until now, I have to say, my ideas were not that well received, but I learned from the discussion and maybe this time I come up with something people like. To frame the problem,