On 4/11/22, Chris Angelico wrote:
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> Which raises the question: what if the current directory no longer has
> a path name? Or is that simply not possible on Windows?
The process working directory is opened without FILE_SHARE_DELETE
sharing. This prevents opening the directory with DELETE access
On 4/11/22 11:06, Chris Angelico wrote:
Steven is, as are a few who have agreed that namespaces are the One
True Way™ to do things.
That seems a grossly unfair characterization of those who don't agree with you.
I think everyone should take a break from this thread -- it is apparent that no o
On 2022-04-11 20:01, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
Which raises the question: what if the current directory no longer has
a path name? Or is that simply not possible on Windows? I know that on
Linux, I can unlink a directory while being in it (which creates
interesting problems for bash, git, and
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 05:14, Christopher Barker wrote:
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> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:10 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
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>> > I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not arguing for module scope. I’m
>> > arguing against implicit global configuration.
>> >
>>
>> Steven is, as are a few who have agr
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:10 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
> > I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not arguing for module scope.
> I’m arguing against implicit global configuration.
> >
>
> Steven is, as are a few who have agreed that namespaces are the One
> True Way™ to do things.
>
I'm agreei
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 04:46, Eryk Sun wrote:
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> On 4/11/22, Chris Angelico wrote:
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> > If you say `open("/spam")`, Windows uses "default drive" + "explicit
> > directory".
>
> You can think of a default drive as being the drive of the current
> working directory, but there is no "default dri
On 4/11/22, Chris Angelico wrote:
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> If you say `open("/spam")`, Windows uses "default drive" + "explicit
> directory".
You can think of a default drive as being the drive of the current
working directory, but there is no "default drive" per se that's
stored separate from the working directory.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 02:51, Christopher Barker wrote:
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>> The context manager changes the entire process's WD for a section of
>> code. This makes sense, although it has its own consequences.
>
>
> Actually, now that you say that— I think it makes my point: the fact that
> this context manag
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 03:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > Windows has up to 27 working directories per process. There's the
> > overall working directory directory, plus one for each drive.
>
> Today I learned something new, thank you.
>
> How does that work in practice? In Windows, if you just say
On 4/11/22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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> How does that work in practice? In Windows, if you just say the
> equivalent to `open('spam')`, how does the OS know which drive
> and WD to use?
"spam" is resolved against the process working directory, which could
be a UNC path instead of a drive. OTOH, "Z
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:53:18AM -0500, Eryk Sun wrote:
> On 4/11/22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> > You know how every OS process has its own working directory? Just like
> > that, except every module.
>
> A per-thread working directory makes more sense to me.
Hmmm, yes, that does seem sensib
> The context manager changes the entire process's WD for a section of
> code. This makes sense, although it has its own consequences.
Actually, now that you say that— I think it makes my point: the fact that
this context manager is necessary, and “has consequences” is because the
working dir is
On 4/11/22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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> You know how every OS process has its own working directory? Just like
> that, except every module.
A per-thread working directory makes more sense to me. But it would be
a lot of work to implement support for this in the os and io modules,
for very little g
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 07:32:12AM -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> My apologies for not understanding your example. The counter example I had
> in my head, and should have written down, was something like:
>
> 15mpg * 7l == how many miles?
>
> where
>
> mpg = miles per gallons
> l = litr
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:33 AM Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 4/10/22 21:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
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> > I guess you could call the associative law of multiplication "dumb
> > luck", but most mathematicians will consider that hate speech.
>
> My apologies for not understanding your example. The
On 4/10/22 21:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I guess you could call the associative law of multiplication "dumb
luck", but most mathematicians will consider that hate speech.
My apologies for not understanding your example. The counter example I had in my head, and should have written down,
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 3:39 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 15:25, Stephen J. Turnbull
> wrote:
> > [1] They don't have to be big problems or proprietary code; computing
> > Fibonacci sequences will do, if you can find a way to make MI relevant
> > to that task.
> >
>
>
> We s
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 19:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:21:41PM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 10:41, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:52:50AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > >
> > > > We aren't bothered by the fac
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:21:41PM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 10:41, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:52:50AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> > > We aren't bothered by the fact that os.chdir()
> > > is global, we just accept that it belongs to
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:16:04PM -0700, Christopher Barker wrote:
> I have seen code that caches the workingdir, change it, then puts it back
> -- but that's very much not thread
> safe, and I'd only recommend it maybe in tests.
If you google for it, there are about a million recipes and blog p
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:50:40AM -0700, Brendan Barnwell wrote:
> You seem to be envisioning a system in which multiple inheritance
> gives a subclass a "menu" of behaviors from which it may explicitly
> choose,
> but does not actually combine the superclasses' behaviors into a si
> On 10 Apr 2022, at 11:20, Chris Angelico wrote:
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> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 at 18:44, Ronald Oussoren via Python-ideas
> mailto:python-ideas@python.org>> wrote:
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>> On 8 Apr 2022, at 16:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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>> On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 02:17:00PM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
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